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Shermy



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Tyre Wear and Brake Discs!

Good evening

New to this forum so first post!

Looking for some advice. I have a 57 plate FL2 with 39,500 on the clock.

I put on a third complete set of Michellin Diamaris latitude (first set Conti's, second Mich) at 37,000 miles. Is this uncommon? I tow a heavy caravan 1600kg occassionally (2000 miles pa approx) so expect some greater wear and tear.

Also, now on 39,500 and have been advised that I will need new brake discs within the next 5000 miles. Again, is this common/uncommon and how much do you think I could expect to pay to have new discs fitted?

Thanks for the advice.

Sherm

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Tandemman



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I also tow a similar van, about 4000 mile a year and another 20000 miles a year solo, I now have 30000 miles on the clock and have 3 to 4 mm of tread left on my first set of tyres, Wranglers 17 235 65. so I would say you are getting through the tyres a bit sharpish.

I had the same story with my last FL2 Thumbs Up

Post #96592 26th Mar 2011 10:28 pm
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Pegleg



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I'm also on Michelins. 26k with 5mm still left on all four.
You must drive like Vettel Laughing Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Post #96593 26th Mar 2011 10:34 pm
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I managed 30k on my tyres (Wranglers) and changed them (another story) and put them back on when I sold it and they still had 4mm on them.
There are a number of threads on here regarding disc and pad wear some members have had heavy wear and some have clocked up fair mileage before any change.
I bought my first Freely with 12k on it and had a set of discs on the front at 21k and pads all round, I put it down to previous drivers as I did another 18k in it and the pads were hardly worn when I sold it. Also towing 1500kgs
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Shermy



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OK...I get the feeling I must be accelerating like I was in my old VW Golf GTI some 12 years ago! Time to take it easy...I can't even blame the wife as she doesn't drive it!

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Tandemman



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The FL2 is only in 4 wheel drive for the first couple of hundred yards at the most when setting off, and unless you lose grip it remains in 2 wheel drive all the time, so if it was down to fast acceleration and spirited cornering you would expect to wear out the front tyres a lot quicker than the rears.
What is your fuel consumption like?
From reading this forum for a number of years ,I think an average figure is 35mpg solo 25mpg towing in a manual and 30mpg solo and 20mpg towing in an automatic.
I've had both I covered about 75000 in my first , a manual and 30000 in my second, an auto .

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The FL2 is only in 4 wheel drive for the first couple of inches at the most when setting off, unless you are on a slippy surface or towing something large and pointless. As soon as it senses traction is ok it drops the rear axle drive. Obviously it monitors the traction constantly ready to re-engage the rears when required At work
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simont



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CG

Do you mean it 'drops all drive to the rear axle' or 'reduces it'?

Must admit it is something I have wondered about... 2002 Honda VFR800
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Something like 90% front and 10% rear.

Edit: The XWD system can transmit 100 percent of available torque to either the front or rear wheels. However, for those conditions to occur one end of the vehicle would have to lose all traction, like driving on ice for instance. During a standing start the rear wheels are put to use, without the need for any slip to occur. Then under straight-line cruising conditions, to conserve fuel and driveline wear, the torque split to the rear wheels is reduced to a level between 5 and 10 percent.

More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction

Post #96623 27th Mar 2011 11:36 am
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D99



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Sometimes keeping the brake pedal pressed when at a standstill after heavy braking can cause the disks to warp as they cool, probably more likely to happen during heavy towing.

Post #96645 27th Mar 2011 5:45 pm
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Re: Tyre Wear and Brake Discs!

Tandemman wrote:
The FL2 is only in 4 wheel drive for the first couple of hundred yards at the most when setting off, and unless you lose grip it remains in 2 wheel drive all the time, so if it was down to fast acceleration and spirited cornering you would expect to wear out the front tyres a lot quicker than the rears.
What is your fuel consumption like?
From reading this forum for a number of years ,I think an average figure is 35mpg solo 25mpg towing in a manual and 30mpg solo and 20mpg towing in an automatic.
I've had both I covered about 75000 in my first , a manual and 30000 in my second, an auto .


It is permanent four wheel drive with the torque split as required.

Shermy wrote:
Good evening

New to this forum so first post!

Looking for some advice. I have a 57 plate FL2 with 39,500 on the clock.

I put on a third complete set of Michellin Diamaris latitude (first set Conti's, second Mich) at 37,000 miles. Is this uncommon? I tow a heavy caravan 1600kg occassionally (2000 miles pa approx) so expect some greater wear and tear.

Also, now on 39,500 and have been advised that I will need new brake discs within the next 5000 miles. Again, is this common/uncommon and how much do you think I could expect to pay to have new discs fitted?

Thanks for the advice.

Sherm


I upgraded to 19" wheels at 21000 miles, I am now at 42000 miles and still have the same rear tyres with 5mm left, but changed fronts just before Christmas. I also tow a 1500kg caravan.


You must be driving it bloody hard to get through the tyres and brakes in the way you describe. I had my brakes changed at 39000 miles, they were the orignial brakes from new, pads were shot and the dics were about 75% worn, but I decided to have everthing replaced, discs and pads. The reason being, if the original set lasted near on 40,000 miles than I will never had to change them again while I have it. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Post #96649 27th Mar 2011 6:27 pm
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Slightly off topic Mav, with the milages that you have done, along with towing also, it seems that towing does not really make a lot of difference to brake wear.

Hopefully that should be one less thing a certain anti Vanner can bleat on about Whistle p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

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chicken george



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of course towing increases brake wear, its simple physics. by how much depends on driving style,terrain and weight of 'trailer'. esp with over run brakes on the 'trailer' electric trailer brakes come on as soon as the brakes are applied not after the load has shunted the car. At work
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But not by much if Mavs posting is anything to go by and the wear on mine since I had it. Thumbs Up p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

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jp



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If its an AUTO it will slightly wear the pads out faster, But you should be getting a Good 30k out of a set of tires ??

I tow a van to the only different I can tell is that is use fuel at a faster rate of no more the 27MPG ??

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