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yorkshirerob



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Terrain response - how does it work?

Hi folks,

can anyone tell me, or tell me where to look, how the various Freelander 2 terrain responses work?

What does the car do different is snow/ice mode compared to mud/ruts?

Does it really work do you think? Or just a gimmick?

Just curious
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Ta in advance!
Rob

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Yes it works, and it does it very well Thumbs Up

It's not some get out of the Censored miracle device though, you still need to drive as the situation dictates

it does things to how the cars reacts, such as snow will feather the amount of power provided to wheels and do things with the ABS/DSC to prevent loss of traction

were as say sand mode expects wheels spinning and the fact you need power ASAP so make the throttle more sensitive Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Inside each wheel hub there is a tiny monkey he/she detects spin in each wheel and applies a tiny monkey sized foot brake to stop that wheel spinning ,

hence often when the terrain response system malfunctions LR mechanics rub their chins inhale, sharply and say 'that's going to cost at-least a monkey or two'


S versions of the fl2 dont have monkeys due to the price of such primates on the world market, they are often fitted with low grade primates know as pinkies or vanners.



damn good bottle tonight, I think I shall go to bed Yawn

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Don't forget the tiny monkey telegraph across the axle though making sure that both monkeys apply the brakes at the same time when needed as per a monkey diff lock.

Oh, and the S models depend on the driver being half decent, they only get half the monkeys. Whistle We Don't Care About Pot Holes !!

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Theres only one monkey in a FL2 and he looks to have been drinking tonight Rolling Eyes Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNpzTnj7YMA

That video explains it pretty well.

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Re: Terrain response - how does it work?

yorkshirerob wrote:
Hi folks,

can anyone tell me, or tell me where to look, how the various Freelander 2 terrain responses work?

What does the car do different is snow/ice mode compared to mud/ruts?

Does it really work do you think? Or just a gimmick?

Just curious
Question
Ta in advance!
Rob


Hope this explains a bit for you Rob...;


The intelligent system of quattro permanent four-wheel drive has a torque distribution between the front and rear that varies continuously to suit dynamic conditions. Only a small part of the torque is transferred to the rear wheels under normal conditions such as a straight road paved, but in demanding off-road situations, can be transmitted to the rear wheels if necessary, almost all the torque. It is an ideal arrangement that provides maximum grip in difficult conditions, while reducing traction, when it is not necessary, thus reducing rotational losses and fuel consumption.

The torque distribution is continuously adapted. So if you find mud or snow on the road, for example, adjusts torque distribution between the front and rear provide optimum traction and improved safety at all times.

The intelligent 4x4 system has been developed with Haldex, whose central coupling technology continuously modifies the torque distribution between front and rear axle through a hydraulically operated multi-disc wet clutch.

However, Land Rover wanted an electronically-controlled center coupling linking the transmission shaft to the rear differential, which could pre-geared to sleep to reduce the loss of wheel traction in spurts, quickly geared to detect loss of traction and disengaged with the same speed without compromise of stability control systems. The system would also transmit the torque necessary to meet the demands of off-road traction.

The resulting system has been used exclusively on Freelander 2 and proactively engages quickly and quattro permanent four-wheel drive. A new pump high-pressure pre-charge the hydraulic system as soon as you start the engine, enabling the 4x4 traction from the very start. This also reduces the time needed to obtain the maximum torque once it detects a wheel skating - 15 º freely rotating wheel (compared to the 60 th of more conventional units).

The Haldex unit is designed to allow up to 1,500 Nm of torque transmission. An accumulator accelerates the response of the unit. The total transmission torque can be achieved in just 150 milliseconds. In fact, the new Haldex coupling system offers the advantages of a system of quattro permanent four-wheel proactive efficiency and low consumption of a front-wheel drive system.

Adaptability
Terrain Response is a key technology from Land Rover that fits the responses of the engine, transmission, central coupling and chassis systems of the vehicle to the demands of the terrain. Thus, optimizing the transmission and maximizes comfort and traction. It is available as standard on all models except the base

The Freelander 2, the driver can choose any of four Terrain Response settings using a rotary knob:

• Driving General - suitable for driving on the road or undemanding terrain.
• Grass / Gravel / Sand - suitable for slippery conditions, on and off the road.
• mud and ruts
• Arena

Each of these configurations optimized electronic and mechanical controls adapted to the chosen field.

Terrain Response also controls the stability and traction devices as follows:

• Dynamic Stability Control (DSC): designed to help curb the transmission of torque to the wheel that loses traction, although in some off-road situations may be desirable to retain the pair even though that loss. Terrain Response automatically adjusts the DSC to maintain proper pair.

• Electronic Traction Control and antilock brakes: Terrain Response set these control systems to provide optimum grip, braking power and maximum reliability in the field concerned.

• Hill Descent Control (HDC): the latest generation of Land Rover's award-winning technology that automatically limits the speed on the descents using the brakes and improves driver control on slippery descents. The HDC is activated automatically when you select the appropriate Terrain Response programs. The rates of decline vary depending on the selected surface.

Terrain Response also changes the electronic center coupling configurations to optimize the four-wheel traction in difficult conditions. This system, operational, made its debut in 2004 in the Land Rover Discovery 3.

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Re: Terrain response - how does it work?

wizking wrote:
The Freelander 2, the driver can choose any of four Terrain Response settings using a rotary knob:

• Grass / Gravel / Sand -


Not on mine.

Bill

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thanks very much Wizking and mini-eggs...answered my question.

Just need some snow/ice/gravel/mud/ruts/sand now to try it out!

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chicken george wrote:
Inside each wheel hub there is a tiny monkey he/she detects spin in each wheel and applies a tiny monkey sized foot brake to stop that wheel spinning ,

hence often when the terrain response system malfunctions LR mechanics rub their chins inhale, sharply and say 'that's going to cost at-least a monkey or two'


S versions of the fl2 dont have monkeys due to the price of such primates on the world market, they are often fitted with low grade primates know as pinkies or vanners.



damn good bottle tonight, I think I shall go to bed Yawn

I shall respond to the onrush of complaints about the above in approx 1 week, Thumbs Up



To be honest CG that was a pretty good reply which made me smile, when it went on after the S version it went down hill from there. Thumbs Up

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YB - get your self on one of Land Rovers most wonderful experience days - all will become clear!
Nearest one fro us is at Coniston Cold otherside of Hellifield. Its a good half day out even if you have to pay for it!! Make sure you get to drive the FL2 though?!!?!?!?

ATB

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chicken george wrote:
Inside each wheel hub there is a tiny monkey he/she detects spin in each wheel and applies a tiny monkey sized foot brake to stop that wheel spinning ,

hence often when the terrain response system malfunctions LR mechanics rub their chins inhale, sharply and say 'that's going to cost at-least a monkey or two'


S versions of the fl2 have chickens instead of monkeys due to the price of such primates on the world market, they are also often fitted with low grade chickens as well and which are supplied by a well known chicken farmer who does not own a S version for obvious reasons.


damn good bottle tonight, I think I shall go to bed Yawn

I shall respond to the onrush of complaints about the above in approx 1 week, Thumbs Up


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Cheers DrownedRat. I actually did the half day thing at Coniston Cold last year. It was a freebie from when my father bought his Freelander.
I wasn't taking much notice unfortunately, as I wasn't looking at buying a LR at the time.
And we drove one of those terrible Disco's!

Rolling Eyes

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yorkshirerob wrote:
Cheers DrownedRat. I actually did the half day thing at Coniston Cold last year. It was a freebie from when my father bought his Freelander.
I wasn't taking much notice unfortunately, as I wasn't looking at buying a LR at the time.
And we drove one of those terrible Disco's!

Rolling Eyes


Whistle and the responce from north of the border is............. Question 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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AndyC wrote:


Whistle and the response from north of the border is............. Question


Non , Mrs Dave took away his internet privileges


It must be pointed out that the S cars without terrain response still have traction control, just that its not adjustable to suit varied conditions At work
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