Just read this Via RRSport

V8 andy wrote:

this is taken from another forum.

Evening ladies and gents

Sorry for my absence for a while there however I am back with some news of changes to the MOT from December 2011, now unfortunately it is going to be bad news for some ..............

HID lights ie the kit we all like that gives us brilliant headlights, this will be made an MOT failure if these are fitted, now obviously if you can fool the tester into thinking its Xenons then all well and good however they are apparently going to be well briefed on how to tell.

ECU chipped, unfortunately they have found a way of telling through the OBD port (diagnostic plug) on how to tell if the engine is chipped and if chipped you guess it its an MOT failure.

Wiring harness security and condition, they will now do a visual check on wiring harnesses to make sure they are not chaffing etc and that all is secure again MOT failure if adrift etc.

Airbag warning lights illuminated will again be a failure if illuminated.

There are a few other changes but I think this is the biggest things that will affect most of us guys. This info came straight from VOSA so is legitimate

Taken from another site , so is it right these are new rules .....................

andy.

Pretty sure this is a hoax or only partially true at best! Blue

Most of it is rubbish. but will probably be the incorrect fitment of bulbs that look like Xenon which actually aren't and with good reason. Normal HID will NOT be affected.

News to me about the ECU and very very doubtfull.

Wiring harness has always been part of the test but perhaps they are clamping down somewhat more tightly.

Air bag light has been part of the test, like ABS since they were introducedon cars.

Sounds like a load of rollocks to me!!!

Checking if car is remapped via OBD is not possible with universal scanners, it would need manufacturers mapping details. Every manufacturer updates main software to dealer terminals regularly so any 1 model could have many different programmes depending on whether the car has been updated or not at service.
Only visible override type ie. box and loom kit might be what is in pipe line.

MOT regulations state thar car MUST be returned to owner in same condition as presented, you could NOT have non franchised MOT stations downloading your ECU to check maping against manufacturers. All FL2's (3) Gone
2011 Mercedes C180 CGI Gone
FL2 GS Auto SD with heated leather, factory tints, alloy spare and a few other bits.

Impossible to check for re-mapping via OBD2 or OBD3. it's just not clever enough. Load of cobblers.
Most re-mapps can be reversed anyway so what's the point?

Agreed, load of cr p. Most of that is either checked now, or impossible to check. We Don't Care About Pot Holes !!

so I guess nobody has bothered to look at the VOSA website yet as changes to test protocol are normally posted on there?

The test to see if chiped isn't made by comparison of the firmware with the original one.
Any modern ECU has a read-only counter which increments any time a new (any) firmware is written inside.
The information about performed official updates, for any car sold, are stored on LR servers.
Imagine if they read this counter and it says 3 updates and you only made 2 official updates at LR dealer garage...

What's wrong with a re-map anyway? It's not against the law is it? I thought an MOT was a test of road worthiness and we all know that a re-map can be good for a cars engine performance...mpg, emissions and all.

It's not bullshit, check here, pages 8 & 9

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MoT%...202010.pdf

It's not part of the MOT yet, and no date has been decided as to when it wil happen, but it will happen. ______________________
2011 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8
2012 FL2 SD4 Auto HSE
2013 Kawasaki Versys 650

I can understand why they want to include HIDS when incorrectly installed the blind oncoming cars

Illegal chips, it that to say all those chipping companys are illegally installing them, or rules changing on them  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Remapps for the MOT is a long way off. If it happens at all. It's not possible at present and i can see it being a big can of worms. How it can be illegal i've no idea. Not approved by the VM, yes. I suppose it's only illegal if the vehicle fails emmisions etc.

Bluefin unit sales will go through the roof if this ever happens, which I seriously doubt that it will in the near future. Blue

npinks wrote:

I can understand why they want to include HIDS when incorrectly installed the blind oncoming cars

Illegal chips, it that to say all those chipping companys are illegally installing them, or rules changing on them

It says illegal chipping If it was illeagal to chip surely insurance companies would not insure you

ad210358 wrote:

npinks wrote:

I can understand why they want to include HIDS when incorrectly installed the blind oncoming cars

Illegal chips, it that to say all those chipping companys are illegally installing them, or rules changing on them

It says illegal chipping If it was illeagal to chip surely insurance companies would not insure you