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DaxRadar Member Since: 04 Feb 2012 Location: Cape Town Posts: 6 |
All I can tell you is that it works!!! |
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7th Feb 2012 6:23 pm |
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The Doctor Member Since: 09 Jul 2010 Location: Gallifrey Posts: 4615 |
Brilliant in the snow and ice we have had. In normal mode the power is split something like 80/20 or 90/10. In GGS I believe it is 60/40 and in the other 2 it is 50/50.
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7th Feb 2012 7:50 pm |
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rchrdleigh Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere in the East of England Posts: 1601 |
An experienced LRE instructor told me that he likes to teach people to offroad in the Defender as they learn how to do it in a basic vehicle. This then helps them to understand what TR and all the other electronic aids are doing when they move onto one of the more advanced vehicles. |
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7th Feb 2012 8:00 pm |
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mikehzz Member Since: 04 Sep 2009 Location: Springwood Posts: 749 |
For crawling you can't beat front and rear diff locks. The Disco terrain response is a lot better than the FL2 because it has low range and revving the engine while crawling to get the TR to kick in doesn't cause anywhere near the wheel spin. Don't get me wrong, the FL2 is far better off road than its competitors. The TR works pretty hard though. I have had the transmission temperature warning light come on during some long steep rock climbing excursions. Not hot days either. The GGS setting is excellent and really ties the car down well on slippery roads but is a totally different situation to where diff locks are used. You can't even steer with the front diffs locked. |
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7th Feb 2012 9:07 pm |
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jaksbak@freel2 Member Since: 26 Dec 2010 Location: Fraser Coast Posts: 225 |
No diputes with you Mike, in that low range (eg: Disco) is better than without (FL2). But then again, so too is a decent suspension system, better tyres, diff locks etc. What I was trying to say was:- "how would each of the test vehicles have faired under each of the scanarios with Terrain Response On versus OFF ?" I was always concerned about not having low range on the FL2 before I purchased but have since been convinced that it is better than all manner of "4WD's" that might have low range but don't have Terrain Response. For example, I feel safer in my auto FL2 in most scenarios than I did with my previous Toyota and it's low-range and limited slip diff. For mine, it's another dimension and I just wish the journalists I mentioned had a vehicle in their testing that could offer TR as that "extra variable" to see what difference it made. I can't remember whether you are running a manual or auto FL2, but I feel much safer with the auto than I would with a manual in conditions where low-range would otherwise be activated.
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8th Feb 2012 11:24 am |
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mikehzz Member Since: 04 Sep 2009 Location: Springwood Posts: 749 |
My Jeep is an 04 diesel model and has open diffs, no traction control and has low range. It has better clearance then the FL2 and is great while the wheels are on the ground but as soon as it gets cross axled ie diagonal wheels loose traction then it is stuck. The FL2 easily keeps going in the same situation...it's an auto by the way. I think a better choice when no low range is available.
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8th Feb 2012 1:02 pm |
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Goozle Member Since: 15 May 2015 Location: Adelaide Posts: 16 |
Mike I'm heading to Robe in March, and plan driving from Beachport through to Robe. Based on your experience, how do you think the Freelander will handle the soft sand? |
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6th Feb 2018 5:13 am |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4907 |
Information on Little Dip & Long Gully between Beachport & Robe. We were there end of November. The last bit of sand onto the beach was maybe a bit soft and we didn't have any sand tracks with us so we were not going to risk it. We did have a tow rope but were the only car so it's not a lot of help! But the beaches were firm to drive on. http://www.freel2.com/forum/post341583.html#341583 Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!
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6th Feb 2018 10:06 am |
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Goozle Member Since: 15 May 2015 Location: Adelaide Posts: 16 |
Thanks for the advice & link to your trip. I missed your original post. You saw some beautiful,parts of SA on your travels.. Hope I'll be able to add some photos of the Beachport to Robe trip that compare with yours. |
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6th Feb 2018 8:47 pm |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4907 |
I got 2 sets of these (4) while on sale at $99 a pair. Although not the best make I think they are solid enough for the Freelander & the longer ones take up too much space. 4 smaller ones are better & still cheaper than 2 larger top of the range ones.
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6th Feb 2018 10:05 pm |
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mikehzz Member Since: 04 Sep 2009 Location: Springwood Posts: 749 |
My experience is that the FL2 is as good as anything on sand provided you have 17" tyres preferrably at least a size larger. Ideally, either 245/65/17 or 245/70/17. Not only do the larger tyres give you a bigger footprint, they also increase clearance. Sand is a very changeable surface and can be ok one day, but treacherous the next. If things go pear shaped, don't be afraid to go down to 10psi to get some grip but drive slower and don't make any sharp turns. Turn off the DSC and drive in manual sand mode. If you get stuck, switch to mud/ruts to try and crawl out. Avoid revving the engine and spinning the wheels if you aren't moving because you'll just dig a hole. If you want to stop for any reason gradually drive up the beach away from the water and and gently swing the nose around so you park facing slightly downhill towards the water. Trying to move off while pointing in any way uphill is sometimes not possible. If you come to a stop and you are pointing uphill on even the slightest incline, you will probably have to reverse to get moving. Don't put your brakes on to stop, you will just create a mini dune in front of your wheels, the sand will pull you up without the brakes. If you feel the car labouring then you have too much air in the tyres. I can't be bothered mucking around with tyre pressures any more, I go straight to 15psi on sand and it works for all but the softest and I've never had any trouble with the tyres after years and years of sand driving in every state of Australia. |
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13th Feb 2018 8:52 pm |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
My son who is an agronomist and travels around farm tracks and on motorways alike for his job had two FL2s and then switched to a Mitsubishi L200. The L200 had low range, difflock plus more ground clearance and he found that going over the same terrain the L200 was generally just as capable despite lack of fancy terrain settings. He said that he did miss the HDC at times. Main reason for switching to an L200 was financial and reliability. He now works in Kenya and has a Toyota Hilux which is as tough as old boots. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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13th Feb 2018 10:12 pm |
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Goozle Member Since: 15 May 2015 Location: Adelaide Posts: 16 |
Thanks again for your valuable advice Mikehzz. 15 psi from the start and lower if required sound like really good advice. I also like your tip about keeping the nose facing the downhill when stopping. I'll give an update after the trip. |
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14th Feb 2018 9:15 am |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4907 |
Stumbled across this on Robe beach run: https://www.outbacktravelaustralia.com.au/...-beach-run Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!
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28th Feb 2018 2:04 am |
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