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DaiW

Member Since: 11 Feb 2024
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 4

2012 Freelander 2 TD4 S Manual Orkney Grey

Engine idle vibration and now stiff gear change

I'm hoping someone can advise. My engine vibrates (in my opinion excessively) at idle and has done so for about 6 months. I thought it could be engine mounts. In the last 2 weeks my manual gear change has been getting stiffer in all gears. This is more obvious when accelerating hard and its hard to engage a gear. If Im cruising with no rush to gear change it's fairly smooth.
Thinking gear box mounts, DMF, clutch, gearbox oil but not going to commit to change anything til I have a better idea of the fault. Any suggestions?

11th Feb 2024 8:10 am

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 4999

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Whats the mileage and service history?

Changing the gearbox oil is easy - start there. Jules

11th Feb 2024 9:52 am

DaiW

Member Since: 11 Feb 2024
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 4

Yeh - serviced every 12k or annually but Gearbox oil I don't think has been changed - Thats definitely on my list. Just think the engine vibration and gear change is linked. Thinking DMF as a possibility as my sons Golf developed a similar vibration but it was also noisy!

11th Feb 2024 10:40 am

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 4999

so what is it's mileage ? Jules

11th Feb 2024 11:03 am

DaiW

Member Since: 11 Feb 2024
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 4

119K its a 2012. So definitely needs an oil change!!

11th Feb 2024 6:00 pm

MotionInc

Member Since: 17 Jun 2019
Location: North America
Posts: 1354

Engine mounts? Transmission needs a fluid change?

11th Feb 2024 7:47 pm

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 4999

DaiW wrote:
119K its a 2012. So definitely needs an oil change!!

I'd be inclined to change the oils in the PTU, haldex and rear diff too. And change the haldex filter and clean the pump filter. If its only had JLR services then I doubt any of these will have been touched.
There is a big JLR service at 10 years but was it done ?

Has the cambelt and water pump been changed ? Jules

11th Feb 2024 8:45 pm

DaiW

Member Since: 11 Feb 2024
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 4

Thanks for the advice. It's booked in for a service so will add all these on.
Cambelt is overdue as well - assume its 10yrs 150k.

Any idea if DMF could be the cause?

12th Feb 2024 7:32 am

moontan

Member Since: 30 Apr 2021
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 22

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Fuji White

I had the same idle vibrations. It turned out to be the engine mount which is hydraulic. It was completely depressed. Once changed, engine vibrations at idle went away. I also had a hard auto gear shifter. It would shift from P to D but with a little effort. That went away with the engine mount change as well. I had done the gear box mount earlier, but the shifter became smoother only after I changed the hydraulic engine mount.

12th Feb 2024 12:34 pm

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 4999

DaiW wrote:
Thanks for the advice. It's booked in for a service so will add all these on.
Cambelt is overdue as well - assume its 10yrs 150k.

Any idea if DMF could be the cause?

JLR says change gearbox, PTU and rear diff at 10yrs/150k miles but that is way too long IMO.
ALSO JLR has no recommended service for the Haldex (though every other car manufacturer says around 20-30K miles depending on the car). I think JLR just expects you to buy a new one.

It could be the DMF at that mileage. I had one fail on a Skoda Fabia and the gear lever really vibrated at idle but the vibration wasnt felt elsewhere really.

Personally I'd start with some less expensive things like engine mounts Jules

12th Feb 2024 1:28 pm

Nodge68

Member Since: 15 Jul 2020
Location: Newquay
Posts: 2082

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

DaiW wrote:
Thanks for the advice. It's booked in for a service so will add all these on.
Cambelt is overdue as well - assume its 10yrs 150k.

Any idea if DMF could be the cause?

Generally a failing DMF will rattle at idle. The DW12 DMF is generally good for 2 clutches.
Engine mounts are the first thing to check Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

12th Feb 2024 3:04 pm

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