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Dean1234 Member Since: 18 Jan 2022 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 219 |
Hi Redfox. Here's the bit I'm struggling with. When the engine is off and it looks like all the air is bubbling out, I'm confused that the level of fluid never drops in the reservoir. Surely if air is actually coming out, that should then be replaced with fluid thus dropping the level and needing a top up? On top of that, why would the air then not come out when the engine is running? I've locked to locked both with the engine running and not running well over a hundred times so feel like I'm chasing my tail a bit. https://www.youtube.com/@scottandalana4x4 |
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22nd Jan 2024 7:20 pm |
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sid Member Since: 16 Jul 2015 Location: devon Posts: 493 |
this problem has been seen before ,im sure it will be in the search function somewhere. |
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22nd Jan 2024 8:48 pm |
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Redfox Member Since: 07 Jan 2024 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 159 |
Hi Dean, Well, I cannot speak for Land Rovers, but on motorcycles, if you want to bleed say the clutch, don't do it frantically, or fast, just move it slowly, nice and easy, and it will bleed out the air + what i said earlier. Kind regards, Redfox. |
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22nd Jan 2024 11:11 pm |
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Dean1234 Member Since: 18 Jan 2022 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 219 |
I would assume that it did have a full fluid flush. Here is the colour of the fluid that come out.
I wouldn't of thought it is rack related but obviously cannot discount it fully. Redfox: Ah I see what you mean. I'll probably pop out again tomorrow seeing as the weather isn't looking too great today and give it a more gentle bleed to see if that makes any difference. I think my plan of action at the moment is the following: - Try and bleed it again but more gently to see if that has any effect. - If it doesn't. brake cleaner the old reservoir and refit. - If that doesn't work then look to order a new pump I guess. https://www.youtube.com/@scottandalana4x4 Last edited by Dean1234 on 24th Jan 2024 3:00 pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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23rd Jan 2024 7:43 am |
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Badger51 Member Since: 01 Mar 2014 Location: Coffs Harbour Posts: 962 |
What’s going on in the reservoir with the engine idling? (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
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23rd Jan 2024 8:07 am |
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Dean1234 Member Since: 18 Jan 2022 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 219 |
Absolutely nothing. It's sat in there like it's on a Caribbean holiday with a pina colada in it's hand. There's no froffing, bubbling or air of any kind when the engine is on. There isn't even any sign of fluid being pulled in or returned back with the engine running and steering being turned. But maybe that's normal as I've never studied the fluid before when it was working. The only time there is movement is when the steering gets to either lock-stop and it drops about 1 mm and then pops back up when it's off the lock-stop. https://www.youtube.com/@scottandalana4x4 |
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23rd Jan 2024 8:15 am |
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Rommel Member Since: 20 Aug 2017 Location: Sandhurst Berkshire Posts: 634 |
If I remember I read this and pretty sure it was down to the PAS pump? 2013 FL2 XS. Defender 90 300 TDi. Defender 90 300 TDi CSW. 1964 MGB Roadster. 1944 Willys MB "Jeep" with bullet holes. (gone) 17 hand Irish Drought Thoroughbred (mostly lame) Nagging Old Boiler. Mahatma Gandhi said if there is an Idiot in power those who elected him are well represented |
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23rd Jan 2024 9:44 am |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5021 |
Ive just been out to check mine. With the engine running you cannot see any PAS fluid movement inside the reservoir - the surface is like a mill pond. Jules |
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23rd Jan 2024 9:53 am |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5021 |
My concern is where did all the air come from - sounds like there was a lot. Yet you didnt allow much , if any, to enter the system whilst changing the reservoirs and bleeding the system.
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23rd Jan 2024 9:59 am |
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Dean1234 Member Since: 18 Jan 2022 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 219 |
Thanks Jules for taking a look and confirming that. From what I've understood from reading other threads, the only place there can be a hidden air leak if there was to be one, would be in the section from the reservoir to the pump. From there-on-in, it's high pressured which means if there is an air leak, there would also be fluid, even on the return side. I think I read in one of the many threads that someone was concerned that the quick connector could be leaking air in. But with the pressure it's under, it would also leak out fluid was the outcome I believe. I was going through some video of when me and Alana fitted the aux/serpentine belt, idler and tensioner. This is the first start up after doing the job. Alana was filming and I was in the car so hadn't seen this video until now. You can see some small flecks of something falling down when the engine is starting and then when it's revved. I'm hoping it's just dirt from when Alana give the faces a wipe before fitting the idler and tensioner. I know I've seen this flecks fly upwards on another occasion when Alana was revving the car and I was under the bonnet but didn't think much of it. https://youtu.be/9iO9nrneQsA When I'm out tomorrow, I'll run a magnet over to see if it's just dirt or something more sinister which I'm sure it's not because I'm not sure how it could be. Just to avoid any confusion, nothing had been touched with the power steering side at that point. https://www.youtube.com/@scottandalana4x4 |
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23rd Jan 2024 3:20 pm |
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Bobupndown Member Since: 26 Dec 2014 Location: Upside down behind the TV! Posts: 2806 |
Watched the video again. Didn't see anything to be concerned about except at one stage it sounded like :-
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23rd Jan 2024 4:42 pm |
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Dean1234 Member Since: 18 Jan 2022 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 219 |
Hahahaha that properly made me and Alana laugh Bob .
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24th Jan 2024 2:57 pm |
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FL2ukkent Member Since: 13 Sep 2023 Location: Kent Posts: 35 |
No expert but i would not expect the fluid to get hot otherwise surly the viscosity of the fluid would change.
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24th Jan 2024 6:15 pm |
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I Like Chips Member Since: 25 Jun 2017 Location: Ascott Under Wychwood Posts: 1540 |
In use the fluid does get hot very hot. would you like me to run the infra red thermometer on it tomorrow |
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24th Jan 2024 8:43 pm |
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