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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey
No power. Fixed.

Hi, 2010 HSE auto
Lost power today. Had been out 3 short journeys and taking SWMBO shopping lost power.p
Wouldn’t,t rev past approx. 1800. Throttle felt spongy, no feel..
Could drive but very slowly., cleared it self once then came back when 10 mile trip home from Sainsbury’s.
25/30 on M8 not a lot of fun. Cleared again for last two miles.
No messages, LR fuel filter this year. LR crank sensor this year.
Any ideas please. First time this has happened. Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone


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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Scan it for fault codes, if possible.
Make a note of any error codes in case you delete them.


FWIW my SD4 went into limp home mode but cleared itself the next day. That was several years ago and it didnt do it again until I needed to replace the EGR valve this year. Jules

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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Jules, going in shortly to my garage. Will have it tested.
Will report back,thanks Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

Post #434536 31st Jul 2023 2:30 pm
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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Just back from garage. They use a Bosch decoder. Tried various things, not a thing shows up.
Been for another three mile trip and all going well.
Just have to carry on. Brings back bad memories of Disco 2 and better half losing faith in car.
Fingers crossed. Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

Post #434540 31st Jul 2023 3:34 pm
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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Did it go into limp mode and show the restricted performance on the dash?
Mine did this on both occasions I had a split intercooler hose. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #434545 31st Jul 2023 6:37 pm
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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

Mine showed turbo vane related codes when 'Restricted Performance' struck.

Codes were confirmed by AA, and cleared by Dealer using some kind of check and exercise program.

Full story in post at end of this thread

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38969.html?highlight=p0046 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #434548 31st Jul 2023 6:55 pm
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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

There was nothing at all on the screen, did not go into limp mode.
Just no feeling in throttle pedal. Only thing the garage suggested was possibly MAF.
Readings were good Ran it into the garage and back this afternoon, 6 mile round trip and no problems.
Could the MAF be faulty. Checked it and immaculately clean.
Each time it happened it eventually cleared it self after a while. Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

Post #434551 31st Jul 2023 7:32 pm
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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

I can't see why the throttle pedal felt different, it's not connected to anything other than a position sensor. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

Post #434553 31st Jul 2023 7:34 pm
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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Ian Metro, Read your full post and very well written and explained.
How do i exercise the vanes please?
intend to go for a reason able run tomorrow, no motorway of about 25 miles and see what happens.
Can always call out the RAC if necessary.
Thanks and will keep updated./ Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

Post #434554 31st Jul 2023 7:43 pm
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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Nodge, just no feel to it, In normal there is a definite feel when pushing down.
An odd one and of course, has to be me, Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

Post #434555 31st Jul 2023 7:44 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

@ janderson41

Do you mean that the accelerator pedal is physically easier or harder to depress, or that it is having a abnormal effect on the engine?

The turbo vanes can get sticky and you can push them through their full range of movement to clear the soot by disconnecting the actuator arm and moving the vane lever by hand - all in the JLR manual.

Its a pdf file - you'll need to download it from this forum . Go to Home/General...

The relevant pages are 1024-1031 - shows you how to free up the vanes. Jules

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Worms



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

When my turbo actuator became separated from the control module in June, I was getting no codes. I was, however, getting normal acceleration and a noticeable noise of turbo flutter when taking my foot off the accelerator pedal. So I guess the turbo vanes were sitting in the full power position. I would imagine if they had been sitting in the minimum power position, I would have had no turbo assistance, poor acceleration and no flutter. 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

Although I did not recognise it at the time, I realise now that I had a 'wuff, wuff, wuff,' noise from the engine, during my turbo vane problem, when I released the accelerator (off-load - that blipping the throttle whilst stationary).

So this is any easy symptom to listen for. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #434567 1st Aug 2023 8:06 am
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janderson41



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

hello to all, thanks again for the suggestions and information.
Jules, Will download the pdf and see what has to be done.
Now nearly 82 and cannot do some things i used to do(no sniggers please)
Shortly going to check with my Autel AP200 and then go for a 25 mile circular run.
Fingers crossed. Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

janderson41 wrote:
Nodge, just no feel to it, In normal there is a definite feel when pushing down.
An odd one and of course, has to be me,

Unless somehow the sensor is coming away from the pedal, in some a strange fault.
There really is nothing to the pedal though, it's no different to a volume knob on the audio system, it's just an electronic sensor that monitors how far the pedal is pressed, so the ECM adds more fuel in response. The feel is just a spring to give it some weight, and allow it to return to the fully up position.
I must admit I think the Freelander pedal is perfectly weighted, whereas the wife's Audi is too heavy for my liking. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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