Morning all, just looking for advice on my 07 my Freelander 2 i have my cam belt and water pumped changed in april in an indie garage had no real issues until October when my car just out of the blue died on me and wouldn't start up again i called recovery and got toad back to my property recovery truck advised that the car has lost all compression and was suggested that it was caused by the cam belt. I contacted the indie garage to see if it was a warranty claim issue so it has been with them for a few weeks now. I have spoken to the garage and been advised that the cam belt is fine and they have found that the engine chain has shattered and damaged the pistons and will now cost over 2 grand to fix just looking for advise on this as i was under the impression it had a run safe engine any advice would be appreciated

What's a "run safe engine"?

I presume they mean the camshaft chain. The cambelt (13) drives one of the two camshafts from the crankshaft. The camshaft are coupled by a chain (no 2), so one drives the other.




There is also a separate chain for the oil pump.


What's the engine mileage ? Has it had regular oil & filter changes ?
You wouldn't inspect the camshaft chain whilst changing the cambelt. So unless it was rattling badly you wouldnt know I guess. Jules

I suspect by "run safe engine" the OP means that the engine isn't an interference type.

IE when the timing belt/chain snaps the valves don't come down low enough to meet the pistons coming up.

Fairly sure that is not the case, and that the valves can occupy the same space as the pistons if the valve timing isn't right. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Thanks for the reply jules and andy just wasnt sure wether this woild of been caused by over tightening when the new cam belt was fitted but these things happen

Rhidd wrote:

Thanks for the reply jules and andy just wasnt sure wether this woild of been caused by over tightening when the new cam belt was fitted but these things happen

May be they looked at the job and thought don’t fancy doing that so price it at over 2 grand in hope they don’t want it done, in the event that they do it’s a decent earner

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Rhidd wrote:

Thanks for the reply jules and andy just wasnt sure wether this woild of been caused by over tightening when the new cam belt was fitted but these things happen

Are you sure the indi is telling you the truth? It's very unusual for the link timing chain to fail.
If it has failed, then only the inlet valve train will be damaged, as the exhaust cam is driven by the timing belt directly.

It shouldn't cost £2k to repair, but it's good 15 hours work.
The valves are about £18 each, you could need 4 to 6, a head gasket set with bolts is under £200 and you might also need some rockers, which are about £10 IIRC, and the chain itself which is about £40.

This assumes the timing chain has failed and not the belt due to incorrect fitting.

That doesn't sound right to me. "chipped sprocket " ???
If you mean the camchain sprocket then how would they know if only changing the cambelt - the sprockets are inside the head and you would not see them just changing the cambelt.

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I'd be unlikely for the belt pulley to be damaged in use. The upper pulley is made of sintered iron, which is very resistant to wear but can be chipped and damaged if dropped or treated roughly.
In normal use it's impossible for it to be damaged.

Something sounds fishy about this place, so I'd want a second opinion. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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Thank you all for the responses i will be taking it all on board once i can get down to pick it up and get the garage.

You can't really over tension the cam belt either. The tensioner is spring loaded and applies, presumably the correct, force against the belt. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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