rickypuntos wrote:

hi the cam pin wasnt put in as the timing belt from what i can see holds the bottom inner pulley in place thus holding the camshaft in place ... the exciter trigger ring sits between the ineer and aux belt pulley , cheers ricky

hi matey, sorry for the vagueness of my reply,,, yeah i saw the slight movement in the wudruff key slot on the cambelt pulley,,, when i first checked the timing and saw that the top pulley was 1/8th of a hole out from accepting the timing pin i thought boom id solved it (wrong lol ).... i pinned the flywheel thenmoved the camshaft pulley a cock hair untill the pin was a smooth fit,,, replaced the bottom aux pulley with pins in then rotated the engine several times by hand then strted the engine just the same ,,, refitted the pins and they were straight in this time ,, then did a timong belt and tensioner service in case it was slipping or stretching ,,,, sadly just the same,, thanks for your input matey