I see there are proposals to allow users of self driving cars to watch TV at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61155735

And that "They will also lay out that users of self-driving cars will not be responsible for crashes.
Instead insurance companies, not individuals, will be liable for claims in many circumstances, the DfT said."

That's assuming they are insured in the first place.

With all the new tech being introduced could we not have the vehicles self-checking to see if they are insured, taxed and MOT'd etc and refusing to move if not.

Maybe its time we change to the Australian way where the vehicle is insured not the driver. Seems a much better system to my mind. Jules

You'll be allowed to watch the telly but not allowed to phone 'er indoors to say you’ll be a little late as you're taking the long way home to finish watching Zulu or No Time To Die etc.

It's already out of date then. Only old fogies watch TV, the youngsters spend all their waking hours on tictok or faceplant or roblox.
Just had a "short" discussion with my youngest, and asked what would happen to a Tesla (other autonomous vehicles are available) if a pedestrian was wearing a "STOP" sign as a Tee shirt? Would the vehicle come to an abrupt halt ? would this cause an accident.

His opinion was that yes Teslas and their like will kill a few people, but in the end fatalities will (should?) be reduced and that justifies the initial deaths. He was being serious. If autonomous cars are going to be difficult, then motorbikes are going to be real fun (it's on the cards) want to see the code that can handle potholes at speed on a corner. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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ANDY wrote If autonomous cars are going to be difficult, then motorbikes are going to be real fun (it's on the cards) want to see the code that can handle potholes at speed on a corner.

I would imagine the response to sudden dangers may be better with electronic automation, and would enable the bikers to ride at even higher speeds, between (say) lanes 2 & 3, of 50 to 60 mph rush hour traffic on the M4. (Over and Undertaking)

The interesting code for bikes would be that dealing with maintaining traction and stability, which I would have thought will be far more complicated than for cars. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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jules wrote:

I see there are proposals to allow users of self driving cars to watch TV at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61155735

And that "They will also lay out that users of self-driving cars will not be responsible for crashes.
Instead insurance companies, not individuals, will be liable for claims in many circumstances, the DfT said."

That's assuming they are insured in the first place.

With all the new tech being introduced could we not have the vehicles self-checking to see if they are insured, taxed and MOT'd etc and refusing to move if not.

Maybe its time we change to the Australian way where the vehicle is insured not the driver. Seems a much better system to my mind.

My daughter is in Australia. Her car insurance premium is a lot more than it would be over here but we can drive her car when we visit without any issues. The UK should change to a better system I think. I didn't realise the French do the same. Jules

A lot of countries in Europe insure the car rather than the driver(s).

Here it's a combination of compulsory third party insurance plus a separate optional damage insurance. The cost though is considerably more than in the UK. My Freelander, for example, in total is around 600 Eur a year and Mercedes around 1,200 Eur. It would cost even more for anyone driving under the age of 23.

It is nice though to avoid those endless questions about the drivers' driving history

Many people, even those with expensive cars, chose not to buy damage insurance. driving on the right side

I would have a guess that most countries around the world have some kind of annual tax and insurance, on the car, often shown on the number plates.
However we would find it strange as it is only a very basic cover, and you have to buy anything other than 3rd party as an extra.
From what I see (from Canadian experience) National Health Insurance cover is run on the same lines, and is not Comprehensive. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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IanMetro wrote:

[i]ANDY wrote If autonomous cars are going to be difficult, then motorbikes are going to be real fun (it's on the cards) want to see the code that can handle potholes at speed on a corner..

Just needs a seat that can react fast enough to pucker up the annular gland  Regards

David

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jules wrote:

My daughter is in Australia. Her car insurance premium is a lot more than it would be over here but we can drive her car when we visit without any issues. The UK should change to a better system I think. I didn't realise the French do the same.

Still sulking?  Regards

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since Brexit, we've never had it so good.

Just in case you were struggling to notice any of the benefits of Brexit, Boris and Co has produced a 105 page document listing them.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/g...brexit.pdf

Ive had a glance at it - it appears largely aspirational and quite a bit has nothing really to do with leaving the EU.
According to my research scientist son, the section on "Quantum Strategies" is not a consequence of Brexit - we were doing all that anyway - only now there is less funding and a smaller pool of young, high quality scientists to recruit from. Jules

That should give him better prospects at promotion then

Shouldn’t we get back to the the OP theme?  Regards

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