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Northcroft



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver
MPG in winter

My 07 manual TD4 is getting around 28mpg at the moment, which isnt fab is it? Journeys of 20 miles, including motorway in these trips, I have left the MPG screen on, just to check what I get, the best I got yesterday was 29.3, tried at 70 mph and 56 mph.

I do believe mpg is worse in winter, but surely not that bad?

Noticed a steering wheel wobble at 70mph, just wondering if whatever is going on there is affecting mpg, I see Kwik Fit do a free alignment service, tempted to take them up on that plus a wheel balance, seems you have to book these days in overcrowded UK, I liked the days when you just drove in for attention. Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
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As you know mileage is up and down depending on the type of journey but I found an improvement of around 10% by doing a diesel purge using Liqui Moly. Don't know if anyone else has tried this and would like to comment.

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Rommel



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Wheel balance and tracking can affect fuel economy but I would aviod Kwik fit as they have a bad reputation try and find a local independant, My TD4 returns about 47 mpg on a run at 55/60 mph I also occasionaly use Millers Diesel power plus addative. 2013 FL2 XS.
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Re: MPG in winter

Northcroft wrote:
I see Kwik Fit do a free alignment service, tempted to take them up on that plus a wheel balance, seems you have to book these days in overcrowded UK,


A note of caution: It is actually a ‘free alignment check - only pay for any adjustment needed'.

Like all car related free checks or inspections offered by main dealers, tyre depots, very large car product retailers etc, these seemingly altruistic ‘free’ things are simply designed to generate easy sales opportunities.

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Have used Liquid Molly a few times, usually during a service. I fill up the new fuel filter with it and it cleans the system on startup and the first few minutes of run time. Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
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Sorry but if you are getting wheel alignment checked find somewhere with a 4 wheel alignment check. Probably not Kwik Fit.

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I get 25 in town and 39 motorway, but then who drives a Land Rover for economy

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It's possible you have a sticking caliper, which is causing the wheel wobble and would also effect the MPG.
After a fastish drive, spray a small amount of water on the front brakes, if the water boils off really faster one side over the other, then it's likely the hotter brake is sticking. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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2007 TD4 doesn’t have instantaneous fuel readout, it’s averaged over a distance, about 30 miles I believe. My 2007 TD4 manual has a long term figure of just over 33 mpg measured top up to top up over the last 11 years. Best mpg figure is obtained when driving at around about 60 mph over long distance. I’ve travelled 420 miles at motorway speeds or near and still shown 90 miles remaining range on readout so overall range is great.

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BossBob wrote:
2007 TD4 doesn’t have instantaneous fuel readout, it’s averaged over a distance, about 30 miles I believe. My 2007 TD4 manual has a long term figure of just over 33 mpg measured top up to top up over the last 11 years. Best mpg figure is obtained when driving at around about 60 mph over long distance. I’ve travelled 420 miles at motorway speeds or near and still shown 90 miles remaining range on readout so overall range is great.


This seems to be the normal mpg for the FL2.

I have had the Trip B running on mine continually for 42k miles and it show an average of 33.7mpg.

On individual journeys my SD4 varies between the high 20s and the high 30s, never above or below that.

From earlier experiments using gps to calibrate speedo/milometer and doing tank to tank, I think that the indicated 33.7 mpg is about 33mpg real.

Edit
On 19 inch wheels both my SD4s are/were about 2 - 3 mph out on the speedo readings against the GPS (true) readout.
For example speedo 65mph = 62-63 GPS and 80mph speedo = 76 - 77mph GPS
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went to Tyre Spot this morning and left the car for half an hour while I had a look in tesco, they did a wheel balance on front wheels, £10 a wheel, bloke said they were way out (could be a standard expression Whistle Whistle ) quoted some figure I think of 55 or 66 . . . like Vienna, this meant nothing to me, just wondering whether to go back now and get rear done as they are the same batch of wheels I got in June Bow down Bow down

going to have a blast down the motorway in the morning to see if my wobble has gone, if not, Im going on a diet Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Whistle 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
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55 or 65 is grams of weight needed to be attached to balance the wheels. Definitely would have all 4 done but £10 a corner is a bit steep. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Northcroft



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blimey . . .I class myself as tight, but I dont think thats too expensive in 2022. Bow down Bow down

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With the fuel don't forget diesel has an extra 5% crap added this year and they will have an effect, when I drove from Scotland to Dover I could get 40mpg but as soon as I filled up in France 38mpg was the best I could get at the same cruise settings, France has had 10% crap added for a few years now. You've just got to live with the green lobby that really don't live in the real world. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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