watched this weeks episode, featured an article on a Chinese electric car Nio, but this one drives itself into a dedicated bay, perhaps a bit like a car wash without the water and brushes, then automatically has the entire battery changed.

Great idea, but no idea how it would work in an overcrowded world.

I am wondering if any manufacturers will have the idea of making a car that you can add another battery to, I for one NEVER have 4 people in a car, if you could plug another battery in the back seat area, it could double your range.




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Watched that, great idea. Didn’t catch whether it was being rolled out here or if it’s just in Norway (or wherever they were) at the moment. Given the little time it took to change the battery, you can see people happy to queue and wait rather than plug in and charge up.
Do you think that other manufacturers will be happy to adapt their vehicles knowing this method of battery charging has been developed?

it seems like a great idea, but what is the cost for a change in battery everytime you fancy it?

Yes it was Norway, and they will be all electric by 2025 . . . .we need to keep an eye on how it works for them, they make us look like a backward country, correct me if I am wrong, but perhaps Norway has more wealth as they tend not to waste money on other peoples wars . . . 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
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Renault first floated and built concepts 10 yrs ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Place_(company)


https://insideevs.com/news/507081/renault-...dered-ceo/

... looks like they may be getting back into it ......

One would assume you lease the battery, rather than buy it therefore you can change whenever and not end up owning a duff old battery, didn't Renault work on a lease battery? my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Norway does have an advantage that it generate a huge amount of hydro electricity (I think that they actually export it) and also has oil reserves.
The cost of living in Norway is scary, just been for a week for work - G&T £13 for a single.

Not really fair to say that they don't get involved in other peoples wars, fairly sure that in WW2 a lot of Norwegians paid the ultimate price.

But yes if electricity is very cheap and made by hydro-electric (environmentally good & totally reliable) it makes sense to use it for transport. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Norway is a NATO member and was invaded in WW2, we lifted out their Royal Family by destroyer and supported their underground, hence the Xmas tree in Trafalgar Square each year, by the way it wasn't London that was thinking of replacing last years tree but Norway as they were embarassed by the state of last years tree as it was damaged in transit.
With global warming Norway's hydro is at risk and they don't have the UK's aversion to new oil and gas fields and they only have a 5 million population in a rather larger country than the UK, though a lot of the land can't support habitation, never mind G&T all alcohol is expensive, the cheapest bottle of wine in a restaurant was £25 in the middle 90's and tax is 35% at the lowest my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Dartman the one wrote:

One would assume you lease the battery, rather than buy it therefore you can change whenever and not end up owning a duff old battery, didn't Renault work on a lease battery?

One could argue that Norway can afford the EV route as they are exporting 1.1 million barrels of oil a day which helps with cash flow. As least they are doing an infinitely better job than Australia. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Tesla designed the model S to be a quick battery swap but they never opened any swap stations instead rolling out their supercharger network
In reality the batteries will outlast the life of the rest of the car with the exception being those with design or manufacturing defects
With the batteries getting better all the time and charge speeds dropping I don't see the need for battery swap technologies to be fair

Lightwater wrote:

One could argue that Norway can afford the EV route as they are exporting 1.1 million barrels of oil a day which helps with cash flow. As least they are doing an infinitely better job than Australia.

Transmission loses are about 2% per 1000 km. We have a network along the east coast including South Australia. It is a massive network. Australia has a political problem & the people are doing their best to move on.

There is going to be a massive solar farm in Australia, Northern Territory, inland for maximum sun. A cable will be laid to Singapore.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/w...ar-AAPOJzS

If Australia had transmission lines east west, South Australia to Western Australia, this last section is only 2000km, we could put sun into the network in a 2 hour greater window. At the very least having solar & wind input in totally different locations gives greater flexibility around weather issues.

We have an under sea power cable between Tasmania & the mainland. There has been issues, but it's there & they need a second cable. The under water section is 290km. Longer under sea cables around the world are 420 & 580km long.

Australia's problem is political. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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And remember that the population of Norway is less than 6 million just over half that of Greater London. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

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