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rhys_m



Member Since: 18 Aug 2019
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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Zermatt Silver
Android Auto raspberry pi

Hi All, pretty new to this forums we bought my other half a freelander 2 a few days ago, shes loving it so far. I have a Jaguar XF myself, and have been working on a project to replace the factory fit screen with a raspberry pi. The XF screen controls everything, so have been doing some canbus decoding to hopefully get enough of the IDs that I can replace the screen at some point (currently have temperature control, volume, skip, heated/cool seats all decoded among some others). So once we got the freelander and I realised the screen only did sat nav and nothing else I saw a pretty good opportunity to add this to the freelander, with it being much more simple.

Anyway, I have been putting some posts on the freelander 2 facebook page, but thought I would add to here as its less likely to get lost. Its a kind of bodge getting the screen in for now, but i ordered a spare fascia to get it all set up, so now I have the original that I can work on to get it a bit less intrusive. Heres a video of it in action (excuse the music, my other half has questionable to taste in music)



I had a little play with the canbus on the freelander 2, kind of hoping some of the IDs would be the same as the jag.....But ofcourse they arent, managed to decode a couple, heated seats, and parking sensors switch but I was really hoping that the steering wheel controls were on there, but I had no luck in the quick play I had earlier. Looking at the drawings the steering wheel controls go to the infotainment control module, which has CAN and MOST, but MOST goes to the headunit, so doubt that the controls are relayed over the CAN bus too.

Documentation I done for the freelander is here

I will update the git with any decoded messages aswell, in the sameway that I have done for the jag, if anyone wants to have a play with the can messages, I have written a guide on the jag git thats exactly the same for the freelander.

https://github.com/rhysmorgan134/JaguarXf_CAN

A little video of what can be done when you interact on the CAN bus, here the jag control panel is sending skip forward/back messages over can, and also the home command for that factory screen, but the new screen is also picking up these commands



And a bit more of a raw video showing messages sent from a pi over can to the car

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Chuckalicious



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Now this is proper cool Very Happy FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - so many issues
2019 DS. Terribly unreliable.
Sold DS for a 2021 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Fingers crossed....
Sold Outlander for a 2014 SD4 SE Tech because I’m mental
Now greatly regret selling the Outlander. MPG of the FL2 is atrocious and so are the fuel bills. Fun though 😎
Couldn’t afford the fuel bills so back to an older Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Significantly better than I remembered it to be…

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Boxbrownie



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Yeah, and too bloomin’ complicated for me Rolling with laughter Regards

David

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Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

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Vanny



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Nice work!

I find having a simulator helps for reverse engineering protocols;

Click image to enlarge


If you're willing to shell out for professional grade hardware (PeakCan, ~£170 from COMSOL) then I can strongly recommend the free for use BusMaster developed by Bosch and Etas amongst a few big names. Give most of the functionality of Automotive engineering grade software.

To get the rig running, I simply recorded some data from the FL2 and play it back into the rigs CANbus. You can very quickly plug devices into the rig and instantly identify there transmission address, very hand!


Let me know by PM if you struggle to find any specific button presses, I might be able to track them down on the rig quicker.

Nice to see someone playing with the Bus!

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Boxbrownie



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Blimey, no thanks.....when I wanted anything like that done I used to wander down to Steve in Electrical Prototyping Laughing

I am retired now and no idea where Steve lives now.......but I know your in here Rolling with laughter Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

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SYFL2



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Whooooa way beyond me Mr. Green

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rhys_m



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Zermatt Silver

Wow, that is amazing, that must of taken some time an effort! What have you been using the rig for?

Yeah I have seen some of the professional CAN stuff, however I get moaned at for buying a pi, so it might be a struggle, I do have some CAN diagnostic stuff kicking around from an old job I had, but it's not crossed my mind to see if I can use it on the car....

Thanks for the offer, I will take you up on that no doubt, looks like your fl2 rig is much new than mine though, it does look very similar in functionality to the jag though (the screen UI is the same as the newer jags) so would definitely be interested to know if what I have deccoded on the jag already is cross compatible with the newer fl2 like yours.

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departy



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Guys that's pretty awesome. Do you have a GIT repo for the freelander?

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