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AW14



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Wrangler tyre noise

I have been driving 2 identical FL2s with identical tyres and rim sizes. 1 has 16k and the other 8k on the clock but the tyre noise is much more noticeable on the one that has covered 16K

Do the Wrangles get noticeably nosier as they wear?

Post #252284 8th Feb 2015 2:42 pm
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EYorkshire



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Do a search, there are a lot of threads on this. Eventually at 4mm the whine sounds like your rear dif bearing is shot.

Post #252285 8th Feb 2015 3:01 pm
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JonL



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Stornoway Grey

I was amazed how much quieter a new set was recently so yes

Post #252286 8th Feb 2015 3:02 pm
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WarriorBez



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Sumatra Black

Yes they are terrible Black FL2
L200 Warrior

Post #252291 8th Feb 2015 4:20 pm
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AW14



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Anyone tried cross corner to corner swaps to see if that makes a difference?

Post #252294 8th Feb 2015 4:45 pm
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WarriorBez



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Sumatra Black

Yes it helped with mine as the noise was coming from the rears and swapping like you said did help until I replaced them Black FL2
L200 Warrior

Post #252295 8th Feb 2015 5:16 pm
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djwhyte



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Australia 2007 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

My wranglers are horrible. I have now put them on the front, since the sound insulation is better at the front end.

There is plenty of tread left in the tyres but you can see that there are small 'chunks' of rubber that is effectively falling off the tyres, which is what I believe is making them noisy.

The Pirelli Scorpions I have on the rear seem fine. I have 19" rims in the garage that will be rubbered up and put on the car as soon as the noise gets more painful than the cost of the new tyres. I won't be putting any Goodyear tyres on the 19" rims.

Sad 1st time FL2 owner. 2007 SE i6 in Tambora Flame.

Post #254561 24th Feb 2015 2:29 am
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ad210358



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Just to add to this, I've just read a thread elsewhere, the owner has absolutly slated the reputation of his Freelander to the pont where others have jumped on the wagon with him, LRA wouldn't assist with his so called Diff bearing failure, diagnosed by his local Indy, two weeks later with a very red face has comeback to say it was his Wranglers were worn down, changed them and the so called bearing failure has gone. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

Post #254564 24th Feb 2015 4:56 am
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Past master



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Two thoughts -
1) my original fit Wranglers (on MY 07) weren't particularly noisy, but subsequent ones were. Probably a change in the composition of the tyre (apparently manufacturers do this, even though the tread pattern and name remain the same).
2) The noise only really became apparent at about 4mm tread depth. At that point I'd be looking to change the tyres anyway. There are articles around (including a poster in my local dealer) suggesting that below 4mm performance is radically reduced. LR dealers won't sell a used car with less than 4mm tread.

I'm currently running on Wintracs, but my summer tyres are 18" Pirellis. Good performance but like others on here I'm starting to notice shoulder wear on them. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

Post #254597 24th Feb 2015 12:15 pm
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djwhyte



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Australia 2007 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

I put my 19" wheels on last week, with a new set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde's. It is much quieter now.

The 17" Pirelli's that came off looked fine, almost new despite being fitted for about 18 months. The Wranglers that came off are completely shot at, despite being just 6-12 months older. The rubber is disintegrating with large flaps lifting up; no wonder they are so noisy.





And for the record, they started to get like that after less than 6 months of being on the rear, before being moved to the front to try and ease the noise they made. I have thought about getting in touch with Goodyear (although I should have taken the hour or two to just take them back to the garage in the first place).

And a picture of the new wheels....

 1st time FL2 owner. 2007 SE i6 in Tambora Flame.

Post #256049 8th Mar 2015 12:01 pm
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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

For what it's worth, a couple of months ago I replaced some Wranglers as the treads was down and one had a nail in it and wasn't worth the £20 cost of repairing. The tyre fitter bought one of the tyres into the waiting room to show me some "castellation" and strange wear on the tread and said that he had seen a few FL2s with this where the wheel bearing was going. I nodded and said that the wheels sounded OK.
Anyway, last week the car went in for some further work on my "rear diff noise" which had come returned and this time the LR dealer replaced the wheel bearing which, lo and behold, had been the one with the strangely worn tyre.

This might be a red herring but worth keeping an eye on. Perhaps the bearing wear causes problems before you hear it. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #256057 8th Mar 2015 1:33 pm
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druand



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Scotland 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Fuji White

13MY GS SD 12k on original Wranglers, all evenly worn to 5mm. Fitted new (ebay) Evoque 18" wheels on Pirelli Verde, immediately noticed noise reduction.
I had no noise concerns with Wranglers, just fancied an upgrade.
The truth really, my partner and I (both 70+) and both Dec birthdays could not come up with birthday/xmas present ideas, both browsing online, I bought my wheels and she got her top range food mixer.
And a box of chocs!!! All FL2's (3) Gone
2011 Mercedes C180 CGI Gone
FL2 GS Auto SD with heated leather, factory tints, alloy spare and a few other bits.

Post #256064 8th Mar 2015 4:05 pm
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Chuckalicious



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I will add to this. Car going in on Friday for a possible wheel bearing/rear diff fault noise. Running on Wranglers. *still* haven't got my arse in gear and checked tread depths, but visually all look good. I assume garage will know pretty quick if it is not the diff or bearing so I will report back probably on Friday.

Post #256106 8th Mar 2015 9:34 pm
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colinrr



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Mine all looked good too and still had about 4 mm of tread. I changed them a couple of weeks ago to Michelins and the noise reduction was amazing. I had feared the rear diff problem and thought it was too much to hope that it was just the tyres but seeing that so many subscribers on here had noticed the problem with the later Wranglers, I went down that route first.

The trouble is I now notice other noises like a small whine from the engine. I hope it's just the steering column grommet but haven't yet investigated it. 1982 RR Classic-converted to 200TDi-gone
1992 RR VogueSE- converted to autogas-gone
2000 FL1 3dr (wife's)
1996 Disco 1 300 Tdi(gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS auto (gone)
MY 2011 SD4 HSE Automatic

Post #256263 10th Mar 2015 1:09 pm
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Chuckalicious



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Just checked mine and have between 5.5mm and 6mm so hopefully not the tyres. Plus, getting the dealer to check it under warranty is free so may as well get it all looked over.

Post #256268 10th Mar 2015 1:49 pm
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