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JonMs Member Since: 25 May 2018 Location: Ilkley Posts: 101 |
You are missing something. The CCF editing is a bit limited but that is mainly due to the FL2 having fewer control units to play with. However, live data is very good. You need to have another play! |
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22nd Sep 2020 2:48 pm |
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CliveS Member Since: 04 Jun 2016 Location: Littleborough Posts: 204 |
I know it doesn't really help, but if it's any consolation, the Nanocom Evolution with Freelander 2 access also seems to have a few functions missing, CCF editing works OK but there are very limited firmware updates available for various modules, also some of the service functions still don't work, like DPF and EGR service for example. |
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22nd Sep 2020 4:09 pm |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2082 |
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll have another play, once I've fully charged the battery of course. Would you happen to know if any specific items are missing from the CCF editing function. My FL2 being a 58 plate is missing 3 flash indicators, and add the clock to the dash LCD, both of which I was able to do on my 05 plate D3. As for engine diagnostics, I can't find anything relating to live data or injector offsets, or even injector coding. Would you be able to give me a hint as to where I can find such things on the App? Thanks |
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23rd Sep 2020 9:10 am |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2082 |
Thanks for replying. The functions I'm wanting to add are in the list on demo mode, so either this demo isn't model specific (naughty if it tricks potential vehicle owners into buying the IID), or I'm missing something in the App. The App has definitely changed considerably, from the last time I used it, which was about 4 years ago now. I'll have another play. Thanks Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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23rd Sep 2020 9:23 am |
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JonMs Member Since: 25 May 2018 Location: Ilkley Posts: 101 |
I've just been out and fired it up for a quick look. The CCF editor is very limited for the FL2. Three flash indicators and date are not available options. There is an option for "Live Values" in the main menu that has many fields that you can select. Some work, some don't. I can't find any fields relating specifically to injectors but that doesn't mean it's not there, it might just be under another name. You just need to wade through it all. I have seen a fair bit of criticism online that the functions available for the FL2 are nowhere near as good as they are for other LR models.
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23rd Sep 2020 10:05 am |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2082 |
It's really appreciated that you've taken the time to check on yours for me. It's a pain that the 3 flash indicators aren't an option. Maybe the FL2 uses a conventional flasher unit, rather than being under CJB/BCU control. I'll look into that in the wiring diagrams. Or I might ping Pat at Gap an email, to ask if it's an option that can be included, after all Gap are still charging top dollar for the IID, but offering FL2 owners limited functionality. I'll look at the live values tonight, if I get a chance. The vehicle isn't on the road just yet, as I bought it broken, and requiring some maintenance stuff being done, and I'm OCD which doesn't help. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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23rd Sep 2020 2:13 pm |
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alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4642 |
What I know...
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23rd Sep 2020 4:23 pm |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2082 |
Thank you for such a comprehensive answer.
1. I added 3 flash indicators to my 2005 Discovery using the IID, but this did require the CJB updated to a later software version, which was an option for the D3. I'm guessing that Gap haven't provide this option for the FL2, which is annoying. 2. The clock on dash upgrade required me up flash later software onto the Ipack of my D3. Again it appears that Gap haven't provided this option for the FL2. 3. I've found the CCF editing section, and changed a couple of parameters to suit my requirements, but as the software is not the updated version, 3 flash indicators aren't available as an option. Again Gap haven't provided the SW updated, even with the paid for licence. 4. I'll look for live data, when time allows. 5. I'm surprised that there's no PID for the 2.2 TD4 for injector offsets, even the original FL1 TD4 reported basic injector offset values, if the right diagnostic equipment is used. 6. I've a Delphi clone which will code the injectors, however I'm rather disappointed that the IID can't. Until I now, I always considered the IID to be one of the most powerful tools for LR vehicles, based on its abilities for the D3. However it seems seriously limited on the FL2, which makes me wonder if I should sell the thing, and buy a diagnostic unit with better functionality for the FL2. I always found Gap to be more than helpful with updates and improvements when I had the D3. They really seemed to be a switched no company, working hard to provide an excellent product for its users. Hearing about a long ago promise to sort the FL2 limitations doesn't inspire much confidence in them now, especially as the oldest FL2s are now almost 14 years old, and it's been 5 years since the last FL2 rolled off the production line. A promise from Gap now, apparently is just an empty promise. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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23rd Sep 2020 9:17 pm |
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