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OLOSTEVE

Member Since: 18 Dec 2016
Location: Swanton Abbott, Norfolk NR10 5DU
Posts: 339

2014 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Firenze Red

Cam Belt change do I need water pump

My 2013 TD4 is due a major service including, Cam Belt. Apart from tensioner do I need to replace water pump?
Did replace, water pump, on my 2007

24th Aug 2020 12:17 pm

Dave47

Member Since: 31 Aug 2014
Location: Margate Kent
Posts: 1338

2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Izmir Blue

Hi,
If it was my motor, then I would change the pump,
you'll know it's all been done, for me it's peace of mind.
Dave DAVE.

24th Aug 2020 12:33 pm

Aveling

Member Since: 24 Mar 2011
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 270

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Firenze Red

Buy a complete Gates kit off ebay - get your favourite garage to change it all for you.

24th Aug 2020 2:06 pm

I Like Chips

Member Since: 25 Jun 2017
Location: Ascott Under Wychwood
Posts: 1559

2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

In a word...........Yes

24th Aug 2020 2:23 pm

Jack frost

Member Since: 21 Dec 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 796

Re: Cam Belt change do I need water pump

OLOSTEVE wrote:
My 2013 TD4 is due a major service including, Cam Belt. Apart from tensioner do I need to replace water pump?
Did replace, water pump, on my 2007

Unless you have very very low miles yes change it.

24th Aug 2020 3:16 pm

OLOSTEVE

Member Since: 18 Dec 2016
Location: Swanton Abbott, Norfolk NR10 5DU
Posts: 339

Re: Cam Belt change do I need water pump

OLOSTEVE wrote:
My 2013 TD4 is due a major service including, Cam Belt. Apart from tensioner do I need to replace water pump?
Did replace, water pump, on my 2007

Only reason I asked the question was I'd heard from someone that the water pump wasn't driven off the cam belt on the later deisel engines.
No brainer to change water pump as usual if it's still driven off the cam belt.

24th Aug 2020 4:17 pm

OLOSTEVE

Member Since: 18 Dec 2016
Location: Swanton Abbott, Norfolk NR10 5DU
Posts: 339

Aveling wrote:
Buy a complete Gates kit off ebay - get your favourite garage to change it all for you.

I only buy direct from Land Rover as i'm in the, "sold at cost scheme", so every part on my car has a bill to prove only Land Rover parts fitted.
That may cost me a little more but if I come to sell in the future, I hope to recover that cost and hopefully will make it more saleable.

24th Aug 2020 4:26 pm

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 5135

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Re: Cam Belt change do I need water pump

OLOSTEVE wrote:
OLOSTEVE wrote:
My 2013 TD4 is due a major service including, Cam Belt. Apart from tensioner do I need to replace water pump?
Did replace, water pump, on my 2007

Only reason I asked the question was I'd heard from someone that the water pump wasn't driven off the cam belt on the later deisel engines.
No brainer to change water pump as usual if it's still driven off the cam belt.

They are talking rubbish. The TD4/SD4 engine has not fundamentally changed much during the production of the FL2 - the water pump is driven by the cambelt. Jules

24th Aug 2020 7:10 pm

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 5135

OLOSTEVE wrote:
Aveling wrote:
Buy a complete Gates kit off ebay - get your favourite garage to change it all for you.

I only buy direct from Land Rover as i'm in the, "sold at cost scheme", so every part on my car has a bill to prove only Land Rover parts fitted.
That may cost me a little more but if I come to sell in the future, I hope to recover that cost and hopefully will make it more saleable.

I think it depends who you sell it to and how old it will be when you do. A doubt a garage would care . Jules

24th Aug 2020 7:17 pm

Aveling

Member Since: 24 Mar 2011
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 270

OLOSTEVE wrote:
Aveling wrote:
Buy a complete Gates kit off ebay - get your favourite garage to change it all for you.

I only buy direct from Land Rover as i'm in the, "sold at cost scheme", so every part on my car has a bill to prove only Land Rover parts fitted.
That may cost me a little more but if I come to sell in the future, I hope to recover that cost and hopefully will make it more saleable.

You can kidd yourself into believing that, but no garage is going to give a damn where and what parts are fitted.
Most of the time they won’t even look at a service record to see what it says.
Gates kits are quality items.

24th Aug 2020 9:43 pm

DEG5Y

Member Since: 22 Jul 2016
Location: Widnes
Posts: 178

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

If your having a cam belt done you should do the water pump and the idlers.
I would imagine the new belt 'could' put extra stress on a warn water pump or idlers and then, at least, you would have to do it again, or at worst, it could be the the head!

24th Aug 2020 9:58 pm

JulesK

Member Since: 07 Dec 2014
Location: Ceredigion.
Posts: 1664

2014 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Firenze Red

Definitely If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

🐑
Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

25th Aug 2020 7:25 am

OLOSTEVE

Member Since: 18 Dec 2016
Location: Swanton Abbott, Norfolk NR10 5DU
Posts: 339

Re: Cam Belt change do I need water pump

jules wrote:
OLOSTEVE wrote:
OLOSTEVE wrote:
My 2013 TD4 is due a major service including, Cam Belt. Apart from tensioner do I need to replace water pump?
Did replace, water pump, on my 2007

Only reason I asked the question was I'd heard from someone that the water pump wasn't driven off the cam belt on the later deisel engines.
No brainer to change water pump as usual if it's still driven off the cam belt.

They are talking rubbish. The TD4/SD4 engine has not fundamentally changed much during the production of the FL2 - the water pump is driven by the cambelt.

Thank you, confirmed what I thought, obviously will be changing the water pump and all other related items.

25th Aug 2020 7:45 am

I Like Chips

Member Since: 25 Jun 2017
Location: Ascott Under Wychwood
Posts: 1559

Also consider replacing the front crankshaft and camshaft seals at the same time. It only takes a few minutes and they are reasonably cheap.

Are you doing it yourself?

25th Aug 2020 8:55 am

dorsetfreelander

Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
Location: Dorset
Posts: 4354

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

My son once had a Renault Clio, when he bought it the dealer changed the cam belt. About a year later the water pump failed and threw the belt with disastrous consequences for the valves. The mechanic who fixed the engine told me that he had rarely seen an actual broken belt but he had seen quite a few engines where the idlers or water pump had failed and thrown the belt with the same result. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

25th Aug 2020 9:17 am

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