Forum-Gallery-Shop-Sponsors

« Advertise on Freel2.com

Home > Technical > How to stop engine starting.
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 1
Print this entire topic · 
gasman



Member Since: 02 May 2013
Location: Tyneside
Posts: 907

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver
How to stop engine starting.

Due to the car standing for some weeks now I would like to turn it over without starting, just to circulate the oil.
Does anyone have any suggestions.
Is there a fuse or a relay I can pull ?
When I do an oil change I normally disconnect the injectors and turn the engine over briefly just to circulate the oil, especially to the turbo. Would that do, or am I doing something wrong. Question Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

Post #391156 13th May 2020 10:52 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Bobupndown



Member Since: 26 Dec 2014
Location: Upside down behind the TV!
Posts: 2823

United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

If you disconnect the electrical feed to the injectors its definitely not going to start, it should turn over just as you do with an oil change. Ive never bothered to do this and had no issues. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #391158 13th May 2020 11:00 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gasman



Member Since: 02 May 2013
Location: Tyneside
Posts: 907

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Well that will do for me Bob.

Just wanted a second opinion. Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

Post #391159 13th May 2020 11:07 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gasman



Member Since: 02 May 2013
Location: Tyneside
Posts: 907

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Job done.
Disconnected injectors, turned engine over a couple of times just to make sure oil pressure OK and oil circulated.
Put it back together, started and let it run for 10 minutes with the a/c on , just to lubricate the seals. Then remembered the back of the exhaust is still in the garage and the prop shaft is lying on some blocks as I haven't put the diff/haldex assy back in yet (waiting for driveshaft retainers).
Strangely no difference in exhaust noise.

If you are wondering why I do this, I was advised years ago by a turbo expert. He told me you run the risk of briefly spinning the turbo with little or no oil at the bearings. Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

Post #391171 13th May 2020 4:34 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Bobupndown



Member Since: 26 Dec 2014
Location: Upside down behind the TV!
Posts: 2823

United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Makes sense, building oil pressure before starting a dormant engine is good practice, mine rarely stands still long enough to need this and if I'm only doing an oil change the residual oil would keep it happy till the new stuff flows. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #391174 13th May 2020 5:35 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gasman



Member Since: 02 May 2013
Location: Tyneside
Posts: 907

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Very Happy Very Happy Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

Post #391177 13th May 2020 8:44 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Steve D



Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 4109

United Kingdom 

I would have thought that it would take a lot more than spinning the engine over a couple of times on the key to get oil up to the top of the engine to lubricate the cams/turbo etc. What about when all these new cars are sat in storage for weeks or months before being sold? Still, as the saying goes, every little helps! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Post #391179 14th May 2020 5:33 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
jules



Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 5078

United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red
Re: How to stop engine starting.

gasman wrote:
Due to the car standing for some weeks now I would like to turn it over without starting, just to circulate the oil.
Does anyone have any suggestions.
Is there a fuse or a relay I can pull ?
When I do an oil change I normally disconnect the injectors and turn the engine over briefly just to circulate the oil, especially to the turbo. Would that do, or am I doing something wrong. Question



Personally Id prefer to start the engine and get some heat into the block, by holding it at say 2000rpm for 10 mins, to also drive out some of the condensation and get the oil warm. But maybe thats worse than what you are doing - i dunno really. Jules

Post #391185 14th May 2020 7:28 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
gasman



Member Since: 02 May 2013
Location: Tyneside
Posts: 907

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Like all liquids oil will find the lowest point if given the time. When I do an oil change I leave it for some time to drain as much of the old stuff as possible.
Turning it over without starting makes sure oil reaches the turbo without it spinning.
Also you should never blip the throttle just before you switch off as the turbo will keep spinning but the oil pump will have stopped.

May be I am being over sensitive, who knows but it can't do any harm. Very Happy Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

Post #391193 14th May 2020 11:37 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Worms



Member Since: 31 Oct 2017
Location: Highlands
Posts: 635

Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Anyone who had an early turbo-diesel Land Rover is very nervous about turbos still spinning at shut down and learned to sit for a while at idling speed to give the turbo long enough to stop spinning before switching off! 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

Post #391211 15th May 2020 6:17 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BossBob



Member Since: 30 Sep 2010
Location: Bristol
Posts: 1409

England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Baltic Blue

When engines had carburettors and turbo’s were rare, the reason I was given for not blipping the throttle before turning off an engine was that the fuel rich vapour, and throttle pumps sprayed neat fuel into inlet tracts, would wash the oil film off of the cylinder bores leading to accelerated wear when the engine was next started. Probably more valid with petrol engines than diesel as turning off the ignition didn’t turn off the carburettor, just the spark, hence the unburnt fuel, but just as valid today.

Post #391218 15th May 2020 9:21 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2025 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
Freel2.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site