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^^^^^The constitution of the United States grants the right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment. In Canada, it's a privilege regulated by the Federal Government. And yes, Americans kill each other quite often............so I will now shut up as I am a proud Canadian Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up

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I used to do some IT work for a firearms dealer in the UK and was told that the true scale of firearm deaths in the US is not known as the individual counties and States are quite independent and reporting is on a voluntary basis so quite haphazard. Shootings involving just one or two people sometimes don't get counted at the Federal level. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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Then a more rational person would think it would be better to get on top of Coronavirus. Due to all the stress of lockdown they will be killing each other as home!

Each of the Australian States have their own gun laws, about as smart as each having their own Coronavirus laws but at least we can get it reasonably right. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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It looks like the true Virus Deaths could be 3 times higher than those recorded in hospitals.
There were 6,000 more deaths than average, up until April 3rd, although the official hospital numbers were 2,000.

From BBC and ONS

The number of people dying hit a record weekly high in England and Wales at the start of April, figures show.
There were 16,387 deaths in the week ending 3 April - the highest since the Office for National Statistics started publishing weekly data in 2005.
Coronavirus cases contributed to the jump in deaths with 3,475 linked to the virus.
One in 10 coronavirus deaths this year are in the community - the government's daily figures just cover hospitals.
The total number of deaths were 6,000 more than the average for this time of year, when deaths normally start falling after the flu season.
It is unclear what else is causing this jump in the total number of deaths - the coronavirus deaths only contribute under 60% of these deaths.
It could be that cases of coronavirus are going undetected or other factors related to the lockdown and outbreak - people not seeking treatment for other conditions or mental health and violence-related deaths - are having an impact.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825

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Post #389990 14th Apr 2020 9:52 am
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I think you will find the French did the same thing ....... not including those outside of hospitals.

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And some good(ish) news
From BBC and OBR

The Office for Budget Responsibility said that this was based on an assumption that the current lockdown would last for three months.
Under this scenario, unemployment would hit 10%, from its current 3.9% rate.
However, once restrictions were lifted, the OBR said it expects growth to recover quickly with no lasting damage.

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IanMetro wrote:
It looks like the true Virus Deaths could be 3 times higher than those recorded in hospitals.
There were 6,000 more deaths than average, up until April 3rd, although the official hospital numbers were 2,000.

From BBC and ONS

The number of people dying hit a record weekly high in England and Wales at the start of April, figures show.
There were 16,387 deaths in the week ending 3 April - the highest since the Office for National Statistics started publishing weekly data in 2005.
Coronavirus cases contributed to the jump in deaths with 3,475 linked to the virus.
One in 10 coronavirus deaths this year are in the community - the government's daily figures just cover hospitals.
The total number of deaths were 6,000 more than the average for this time of year, when deaths normally start falling after the flu season.
It is unclear what else is causing this jump in the total number of deaths - the coronavirus deaths only contribute under 60% of these deaths.
It could be that cases of coronavirus are going undetected or other factors related to the lockdown and outbreak - people not seeking treatment for other conditions or mental health and violence-related deaths - are having an impact.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationand...ndandwales



That would fit with the original worst case scenario of 250K excess deaths.

A crude calc: if there is an overall 1% mortality from COV19 (S Korea data) and we need 60% infected for herd immunity then we'll have 390k deaths from a population of 65m Jules

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'Taiwan's number of COVID-19 infections is currently below 400, despite the island's proximity to the outbreak's origin on mainland China. Experts say early intervention has helped stop a public health crisis.'

https://m.dw.com/en/taiwan-coronavirus/a-52724523

' "Due to the hard lessons that Taiwan learned during the SARS epidemic in 2003, it is more prepared for the coronavirus outbreak than many other countries," said Dr. Chunhuei Chi, a public health professor at the Oregon State University in the US.'


Looking at world metres Taiwan has only had 6 deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Largered



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I use ......

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

WE don't know 'who' feeds this information ??

My youngest daughter is in North Island New Zealand.

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On another note .... BBC How to cope with living alone in isolation

I have lived for the past 6 years 'on my own' ..... best 6 yrs ever. Whether journeying around or being at the Barn during winter (and this summer) ..... I love it !!!

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This is for NSW by postcode.

https://preview.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/find-facts-about-covid-19
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'21 Million Chinese Cellphone Users Disappear in Three Months of Pandemic'

https://www.breitbart.com/national-securit...-pandemic/ Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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A fund to help NHS

I think it is worth while showing a bit of appreciation to those working to help us.

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Lightwater wrote:
'21 Million Chinese Cellphone Users Disappear in Three Months of Pandemic'

https://www.breitbart.com/national-securit...-pandemic/


OMG Jules

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Maybe instead of wild animals they have been eating them? Everyone can spread it - Anyone can catch it. Stay home - the life you save can be your own!

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Lightwater wrote:
'21 Million Chinese Cellphone Users Disappear in Three Months of Pandemic'



When I worked for the Japanese, we had a factory in Shenzhen, in January it closed down for 6 weeks, after that ONLY 60% of the staff returned, year on year. Although there were always more Chinese workers to make up the short fall.

So I don't see 21Mill phones disappearing as any thing odd.

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