I know this isn’t worth anything due to its condition primarily but I thought it was worth posting about purely as a matter of interest. I don’t know it’s age or the full story behind it but it’s a Smith & Wesson 38.

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It may have some worth ........
....... if it belonged to The Milky Bar Kid !!!!
.................. or The Lone Ranger.....


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Guessing it's still legal due to it's age but I would check it out.
Have you taken it to a firearms dealer, don't know the nearest one to Gallifrey. they maybe able to help.
I worked in a gun shop when I left school. great job, at 17 I was covered by his license to carry and use class one firearms, try that now. Common sense isn't very common.
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My initial thoughts are that it is a military or police version on Smiths “ K “ frame . Reason I say this is that it has a fixed half moon type front sight which probably also dates it way back, 30- 50’s . Also if you look at the hammer , it is missing the spur , that’s the bit you would use if you wanted to fire the gun single action . ( typically a modern revolver is double action , that is you can fire the gun by just pulling the trigger , or you can pull the hammer back until it locks and then fire the gun with a much reduced trigger pull , ) . So is the spur just missing or modified that way as police and military generally taught double action shooting . It could be ex British army with 38/200 cartridge or ex someone else’s as .38 special

Obviously it’s no danger to anyone as a ) it’s a rusted lump , b) the mainspring isn’t there it would originally have been a leaf spring that slipped into the groove on the base of the handle and the small screw would be bearing on it .

If it was say an ex military one , and it was working , and you could sell it , unfortunately it wouldn’t be worth a whole lot more than its weight in scrap

Biggest single isssue you have is that the calibre is still available , so the gun or it’s components are not classed as antique . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Looks like a WW2 S&W Victory model.




Suggest you hand it in to a bona-fide firearms dealer ASAP.

I would imagine that you need a firearms licence to hold that even in the delapidated state it’s in. It could still be adapted to fire again though extremely dangerous to do so. Not suggesting you would of course. Best course of action is surrender it to local plod or firearms dealer.

This falls outside of the scope of the possession of a firearms offence. It is incapable of being used and could not be adapted as it is beyond repair. The cartridge actually falls out as it is so worn down and there are other issues with it of course. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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When you say the cartridge falls out of it ... please tell us it’s not a live round

ps , the cartridge ( that’s the primed brass case with the bullet head intact is meant to fall out of the cylinder before it’s been fired . After it’s been fired and the empty brass has expanded a bit of a push on the extractor rod shoves the 6 empty brass cases out .

The bullet leaves the cartridge case, it’s nose bridges the gap between the cylinder face and enters the tapered barrel throat which centralises it as it starts it journey though the barrel .

By the way what ID marks are stamped on the rim of the cartridge case ? 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Apologies, cylinder I meant not cartridge There’s no ammunition of any description for it. I’d need a magnifying glass to properly make out some of the numbers etched into the gun. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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The piece is a Section 1 (FA 1968) "Firearm". 20th century service revolvers such as this are never deemed to be "antique" by cops, courts or CPS for firearms act enforcement purposes. It was made to be capable of discharging a bullet from the barrel and it is irrelevant that due to some technical issue it cannot actually go bang at the moment. There is no provision in law which can change the nature of a Section 1 firearm into something other than a Section 1, bar certification as deactivated under the EU (and UK law adopted) deactivation regulations. I suggest contact the Firearms Licensing Officer of the local plod to book an appointment for taking it in. Monetary value = nil. Potential aggravation = high.

^ I'm already on the case so to speak and yes I discovered that revolvers fall outside of the antique exemption under CPS guidance. Would CPS run a case against me in the real world just for having it at home? Nope. I speak from considerable real world experience too. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Firearm legislation is tighter here in NI than the rest of UK. There is absolutely no chance of anyone being allowed to keep even a delapidated firearm such as this S&W without it being on a firearms cert as an antique possession only with stipulation the barrel should be blocked. Even in its poor state the right person, or should I say wrong person, with the correct knowledge and a few spare parts could get to fire again even if it is just once. Mind you, in NI all shotguns and air rifles must be held on an FAC and secured in an approved cabinet.

Problem you have now Doc is that it's now on the internet that you have it, what if somebody working for the CPS or the Police are on this site? I would think they would be duty bound to do something.
Best take to a gun shop to look after it for you or hand it in to the police just in case. Common sense isn't very common.
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Tradewind 35 wrote:

The piece is a Section 1 (FA 1968) "Firearm". 20th century service revolvers such as this are never deemed to be "antique" by cops, courts or CPS for firearms act enforcement purposes. It was made to be capable of discharging a bullet from the barrel and it is irrelevant that due to some technical issue it cannot actually go bang at the moment. There is no provision in law which can change the nature of a Section 1 firearm into something other than a Section 1, bar certification as deactivated under the EU (and UK law adopted) deactivation regulations. I suggest contact the Firearms Licensing Officer of the local plod to book an appointment for taking it in. Monetary value = nil. Potential aggravation = high.

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Problem you have now Doc is that it's now on the internet that you have it, what if somebody working for the CPS or the Police are on this site? I would think they would be duty bound to do something.
Best take to a gun shop to look after it for you or hand it in to the police just in case.

I’m all over it. Let’s just say I have some insiders  LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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