To be fair, the fact remains that egr valves are the cheap fit-to-all solution to brand new engines that run on standard one-for-all-of-the-world maps. A quality live remap (NOT A FLASH REMAP) will always yield far superior power / efficiency results than the bog standard fit for the world map of any car of the manufacturing line. The unfortunate truth is it would be too costly to individually remap each new car off the line; it's just easier and cheaper to fit an egr valve.

So yes, i do agree with you. However, my particular vehicle does not need to meet these new requirements. I am already penalised with the high tax band instead.

So in short, live maps are my recommendation. But this synergy 3 box also provides what i wanted! If it offends you that much, start your own thread instead of hijacking mine!

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start your own thread instead of hijacking mine

If you start waffling about something that is nothing to do with the thread title then it is commonly known as thread hijacking.

You talk in your posts about the mods you have done to your car and people respond, that is not hijacking the thread

This info was provided solely to give others a benchmark. As clearly stated, i mention any work out changes done at your own risk. If i wanted personal opinions i would have set up a poll. The thread question was inviting owners of the synergy 3 box. Not other busy body biggots who can't take their blinkers off.

If you've no interest in the synergy 3 box... Why are you even clicking on the thread? I've set it up purely to mark my own personal experience in favour of other owners. When what you write is totally off topic - it is thread hijacking!

What makes you think I have bno interest in the Synergy 3?

If you don't want people to comment on your personal opinions then don't share them in a public forum.

RichardM well said
I took exception to his attitude as well

Anything helpful to share to do with the synergy 3 then? What setting do you find most economical?

My last line after this undirected rant is;

-Standard factory maps enable the vehicle to operate from Siberia to Africa and anywhere in-between. For obvious reasons, this is the most cost effective solution for manufacturers but not the best for the customer.


-For best results of any vehicle, go and have it specifically live mapped on a rolling road by a reputable specialist. But expect to pay around £400 - £500. The benefit being that the map suits the vehicle exactly. And going from personal experience on numerous vehicles, this remains my trusted pathway. However, if the vehicle is taken back to manufacture, they may inadvertently reflash one of their generic maps back on as an update procedure. Not unheard of.

-This synergy 3 box has offered me unexpected gains for the small £180 price tag. The vehicle feels much better to drive and has already shown increased mpg. I'm still going to test other settings to see if it can offer anything more.

-Some owners don't like the idea of their software being altered through a remap so this could be an alternative and viable solution. (I'm doing a test on here but if you don't like what i write, have a look on the jaguar xf / mondeo owners forums. There are numerous threads putting the synergy 3 against other cheapo boxes AND remaps on the rolling road. All positive.

-The owner of the synergy 3 has been around a long time specifically working with mg rover / land rover / jaguar and is a member on the jaguar forum at least. He's very knowledgeable and very helpful. He also used his own jag xf as a test bed for the synergy 3 on his rolling road. He can alter the settings to whatever you want. It's a digital unit.

-Just ensure that all sensors are renewed for best performance, but this rule goes for any engine as they all degrade over time, especially when an egr valve is clogging the intake system. Like it or not, they only work as new. They soon foul the system and cause it to run poorly. In essence, if you want to keep it, you should regularly be removing egr, pipe, inlet manifold and ideally head to have to gunk cleaned off. But I'm pretty sure no owner has gone to that trouble as part of their normal service routine. (Rant over! AND this is nothing to do with the thread in question - i just happen to have blanked mine off because of the gunk it had built up in my inlet system and i don't want to strip it down again now it's all clean).

Bottom line: I always prefer live remaps. But on this occasion for this land rover.. the synergy 3 has already proven positive results for me for a fraction of a remap.
Not to mention it now driving much better than any standard td4 or sd4 Freelander I've driven. (Although i mean in smoothness and progressiveness. Its not a race car and i don't drive it as such. And I'm not comparing mine to an sd4 either. If i wanted an sd4 i would have bought one!)

I will update my findings with this next setting in the next few days...

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Not other busy body biggots who can't take their blinkers off.

Fair enough. I do apologise for the rant. All I'm trying to do is log my findings in as fair and accurate way as possible and people started to go off topic moaning about my egr blank.. I'm sorry for moaning back.

If anyone has long term experience of the synergy 3 box good or bad, I'd like to hear from them though. As I'm sure other prospective buyers would. As I'm still considering a live remap. As said earlier, i managed to buy mine cheaply so it only deserves an in depth testing before writing off. And it's already exceeding expectations.

I appriciate the findings Dervy.

I skimmed over the back and forth stuff as can't be doing with that - I think it should be taken as read that anyone fitting one of these does their research and makes their own decision on risks.

Well put grue! Hopefully my findings will help other people considering this in the future. That's all i wanted to do.

I used to have an Antara which I fitted a Racechip Pro2 to. It made a huge difference giving around 40bhp more! Now they have a good reputation and I used it for two years with no problems but greater torque and a fuel mpg of 42 in mixed driving and 50 on the run to Wales!
The pick up in all gears was superb and I did not use it to "go faster" but improve the economy which it did. But it only connected to the fuel rail, I have read many threads here about damage to the turbo, crank etc so I am unsure if I want to risk it on the FL2, interesting to read your thoughts on your set up though.
I am hitting around 37 to 38 on mine in mixed driving so I may just leave it as it is but if one came up cheap I may give it a go  2014 Freelander 2 XS TD4
Firenze Red

That's a good figure me thinks. To be fair, it's not a miracle cure. It really is down to the driver at the end of the day.
It certainly feels much more eager at low revs requiring a lot less throttle input and overall feels much smoother through changes

Update;
Completed 170 miles on the low boost / high torque / high power setting and... I didn't like how it felt. It made it feel too harsh even at low revs. One step too far! Looking at the fuel needle and odometer, it looks to have used more fuel too so I've reverted back to low boost / high torque / medium power. It feels much better so going to leave it there.

This thread has been quiet for a while. I skipped over the off thread stuff. Now that much more time has passed how do you rate the Synergy 3 now?