Did anyone spot this or has it been covered already??

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/ar...ender.html

You beat me to it by 5 minutes.
Article also in the I newspaper on page 41 .Not IT savvy enough to download it but hope it is a huge success.

Bill Life Honorary Member of Wallasey Motor Club.
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plans include recruiting a team of automotive experts and deciding where the vehicle will be built.

C'mon fellas - he's waiting!

Will be interesting to see what he comes up with - gets my vote for even trying  No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

"Fiat Lux" a philosophy not a car

I'm guessing it'll be ready round about the same time that Richard Branson's spaceship starts commercial flights..... by which time of course flying pigs will have made all other modes of transport obsolete

It's been on Radio Newcastle all day that they are to be built in the North East - perhaps the plans are more advanced than the press article suggests No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

"Fiat Lux" a philosophy not a car

Been reports since last summer - some denied by LR

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...ick-diesel Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

I hope Ineos can pull it off, although it will be a huge task. I certainly would like to invest in the company and the car. Its sad to see so many Landy Defenders doing good work across the country (and beyond) and knowing that JLR have little interest in meeting that requirement any more. The Land Rover brand nowadays means style above substance, competing for the same as all the rest volume sales rather than maintaining brand identity and being a specialist producer. Despite it's undoubted off road ability the Defender was poorly made with totally inadequate levels of secondary safety and it was in many respects under-engineered and over-priced. I frankly doubt if LR have the corporate will to deliver a fitting new Defender replacement so lets hope someone else can step up.

The Ineos Projekt Grenadier has come into the news again recently (well at least in my area) as the talk is it will be built at Ford's Bridgend plant - in what form not clear if Ford build it or Ineos take over a proportion of the site.
Hearing from people close to this that it is happening - though cynical me has doubts still I hope I am wrong.

more here:

http://www.wheelswithinwales.uk/ford-in-ta...end-plant/

I am sure that I have read variations of this story in the past, the only changes are where and when it may be built, it is going to include JLR or perhaps another manufacturer, and likewise changes to engine/drivetrain.

Let me know when you spot a prototype driving down the road. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Ah yes, Jim Ratcliffe. The ardent supporter of Brexit who has now moved to Monte Carlo. He's had all the development work done in Germany (hence ProjeKt Grenadier). I will be quite surprised if it's made in the UK, but I imagine it depends on how much government subsidy it would attract. No news that I can see on their website: https://projektgrenadier.com/ Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

Was told last night that WAG are forking out again Smallmankey

WAG..... Welsh Assembly Gov. If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

Hi Jules

Would not be a surprise sadly, don't think I could ever see this coming to Bridgend without a rather large sweetener from somewhere..

Still remain to be convinced it'll happen - hope it does though as it would be much needed work for the area though as the future of the engine plant itself doesn't look great as it stands.

Very convenient M4 access, probably low wages compared to other car plants,££££'s off WAG and will most likely pay for plant alterations,
Be much needed jobs after the engine loss but still not sure we will get it. If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

The question you have to ask is "why any manufacturer would situate itself on an island" ? and then add to that, " an Islando that is hell bent on isolating itself from major trading partners " .

Given that it is a new start up the best place to build the car would be somewhere that has a track record in vehicle manufacturing. Lower cost labour is always a benefit. It should have a guaranteed supply chain not hindered by unnecessary and costly import tariffs, good road and rail links , and should have unfettered movement for the talent it wants to bring into the business on long or short term placements.

As the bulk of the sales will not be going into the UK , you also have to look at exporting the final product. There are a number of places that meet those requirements, Eastern Europe, Spain, Portugal, just to name a few. Ineos are no different to JLR in that respect, how many billions did they put into the Slovakian plant .

That's before we even consider the far east or India.. I may be wrong but I wouldn't hold much hope of seeing a new low cost vehicle plant develop in Wales.

One thing is for sure , and I'm saying this a a previous Defender owner, times have moved on and the Defender never did, I can not see one single person swapping their lifestyle SUV for a "Utility", and as far as tackling the Toyata, Isuzu, Mitsubishi offerings, those things are class leading, with a loyal following of their own. 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .