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Dervy



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Td4 fuel filter assembly or internal paper change?

Unsure if this has been asked before but i couldn't find an answer..
I've searched for a new fuel filter for my 08 td4 and have come across a full plastic housing at around £30 or a paper style internal filter at around £6.

Can the plastic housing be opened to change the internal filter or is it better practice to replace the whole unit? (Seems very wasteful though..)

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Dervy



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How embarrassing!
I've just realised the paper filter offered is the oil filter!

Please close thread and erase my red face! Embarassed

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Laughing

Have a look at the stickys in the maintenance and mods section or do a quick search as a) most people say use genuine only and b) you need to prime the filter after fitting with a suction pump or the like as they do not self prime and you'll end up with airlocks Crying or Very sad

edit: here's the link http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic13888.html

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Dervy



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Interesting that you say that as I've been told that these engine are fitted with a low pressure pump and requires ignition cycling 3-5 times for approximately 10secs to first fill the filter and again to fill the lines post filter again. Then start engine. Video also on YouTube showing as such... Confused

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When you change the fuel filter on a Freelander 2 it needs priming as the system does not self prime, when I change mine I bleed the system with a vacuum pump connected to the return outlet of the fuel filter the one to the tank (looking at the filter from the top it is the rear on the left) this extracts all the air in the system, from the filter, fuel pump and injector lines. Once the system is purged of air the vehicle should start without any problem.

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Dervy



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Thanks for the reply. Is the standard bulb type primer good enough for the job?

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Long ago my Peugeot 504 had a fuel filter that came apart and the actual filter was simply replaced. Then one year they changed the system..... Had to buy the whole filter at 10 times the price as it was a sealed unit!

Progress & pointless landfill waste! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Dervy wrote:
Interesting that you say that as I've been told that these engine are fitted with a low pressure pump and requires ignition cycling 3-5 times for approximately 10secs to first fill the filter and again to fill the lines post filter again. Then start engine. Video also on YouTube showing as such... Confused

Are you sure on that - do you have a link? I’ve done that on FL1's but never on the FL2's Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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pab



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Possibly refers to the i6 engine, which I believe does have a low pressure pump in the tank. As said, however, the TD4 doesn't and won't self-prime.

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jules



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Dervy wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Is the standard bulb type primer good enough for the job?


Yes - theyre about £8 off ebay 8mm hose worked for me.

That is the recommended method as in the JLR freelander manual (search for "workshop manual" on here for a free download).

It is easy to do and less messy than some of the alternatives methods of priming that you seen mentioned on here.

Starting the engine without first fully priming will not do the high pressure fuel pump any good.

Changing the fuel filter takes a bit of time and I can imagine some garages not bothering and simply ticking the box.

Out of interest in my BMW days it was not uncommon on the 3 series for the air filter to go unchanged for years as it was a lot of work (for an air filter).


On later 3 series they moved over to a more traditional air box and the filter change took about 2 minutes. Jules

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Lightwater wrote:
Long ago my Peugeot 504 had a fuel filter that came apart and the actual filter was simply replaced. Then one year they changed the system..... Had to buy the whole filter at 10 times the price as it was a sealed unit!

Progress & pointless landfill waste!


Had several Peugeot diesels in the distant past (305,205,405)- all those fuel filters were easy to change compared to the FL2.

Cambelts were easy to change too. Jules

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Dervy



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Steve D wrote:
Dervy wrote:
Interesting that you say that as I've been told that these engine are fitted with a low pressure pump and requires ignition cycling 3-5 times for approximately 10secs to first fill the filter and again to fill the lines post filter again. Then start engine. Video also on YouTube showing as such... Confused

Are you sure on that - do you have a link? I’ve done that on FL1's but never on the FL2's




However, upon looking at more of their videos, they found they still need to bleed the system as all say so on here!

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jules



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And theyve done it wrong IMO - messy.

Just install a new filter but dont bother to fill it beforehand.

Then connect your hand pump in series with the input line from the fuel tank - its the front left connection (not the one they used in the video). Pump it to flush out any dirt with first lot fuel coming through. Then connect to the filter. Any remaining bits in the hand pump are filtered out.
Then pump fuel from the tank, through the filter and up to the fuel pump and back round to the tank. You will hear air bubbling in the fuel tank (assuming you are not in a noisy area). When the pump feels hard (its a definite change) you are done priming. Reconnect the input line to the filter.

The 8mm hose on the hand pump connects nicely to the input line. For the connection to the filter I cut off the front right output connector from the old filter and used that to connect the 8mm hose to the female connection on the filter.

Right and Left as standing in front of the engine. Jules

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Dervy



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Thanks jules!

Most helpful advice there. I was a little bemused with all the varying ways of doing it.. when did it become so complicated? And why has LR (and other penny pinching manufacturers) not fitted a bloody priming bulb?? Basic necessities of a diesel engine!! #facepalm

Even MG fitted one to my ZR. Come to think of it they even fitted poly Bush as standard to the front wishbones. MG were much better than most are led to believe to be fair.... (Now I'm reminiscing!) Laughing

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sid



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fill the filter before fitting,its the easiest way.

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