did any one else see it ? dont matter what u got ,how good u drive,ect when u slide u slide. hope no damage caused.

Yes, I saw it. Got to admit, I thought immediately of Chicken George.!!!!!!!!! It did look like santorini black.!!

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Link to video on BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7811826.stm

looks to have private reg PCN ?R Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

With wheels locked under braking the FL is like any other car or sledge......

he/she appeared to be driving too fast as well

But he/she will have a few scratches on the bumper where the branches hit whilst they was off roading  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Must be somebody on this forum - had white indicators
Not CG as it had roof rails
Looks like it was done on purpose (for the sake of a TV rapport ) to me as he turned and braked at the same time and had certainly not chosen Snow and Ice mode
In adition the soppy little car behind had no problems at all - what a load of  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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Is this a joke?
Seriously, the car had practically no speed on almost flat ground. On this road I would have speeded up not even concidering braking. But then again, I have winther tyres. This car must have had summer tyres.

Seriously guys, is this how you drive, -what you experience in the UK when there is a little bit of the white stuff on the ground? Please tell me this is a joke, or was just constructed for TV.

If not, we have seriouly got to re-discuss the impact of using summer-tyres vs. winther-tyres. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack.

Problem is it's not worth buying winter tyres here for the 3 or 4 days you actually get snow on the roads.

I thought the standard tyres on the FL2 were M+S rated, I know they're not winter tyres, but I would have thought they help a little in the snow/ice.

Also, down a slight hill, in ice, shouldn't you have grass/gravel/snow setting, and could possibly have hill descent in use, to keep the car under control?

I agree Viking, we are rubbish, but then again, as others say, we don't exactly get much practice. And buying specific winter tyres is probably not much use, as tomorrow, it will probably be +10 rahter than -3, and then they'd be the wrong tyre.

What may also be the problem, is that people are using tyres that are too worn down for the summer, let alone the winter. I've seen a few pics of smashed cars, where speed was to blame, and they've pointed out that the tyres were completely worn, so the driver had no hope, at any speed in the wet.

We really should have some better driver training, that would help. As viking said, why try to brake then, a little throttle, to get the car straight, then slow down, there was nothing in front of them.

Rich

Probably also due to a lack of understanding of how a 4x4 actually operates in slippery conditions. All vehicles slide when it's icy, 4x4 or not. ______________________
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