Evening all,

I hope your all well?

Some may have seen my recent post that I'm looking at buying first freelander 2 which will also be my first LR.

Now I've always been Into VAG for over 10 years now and have acquired various tools etc specific to VAGS, the most invaluable being VCDS or VagCom as it used to be called.

Now this is pretty much dealer level diagnostic, it'll do everything from clearing fault codes to changing and modifying ecu valves to allow hidden features, retrofits etc.

Now been new to LR is there anything of this level? I've come across the Foxwell NT510 unit! Any one used this? I don't just want a generic code reader as I've got a few of these, I'm wanting something similar to VCDS (for reference VCDs cost less than £250 so ideally around this price).

Thanks.

No thoughts chaps?

GAP IID
Nanocom Evo

The above are the best, as you can edit the CCF too, I bought the Nanocom as it has its own screen to view, making it fully portable. It has its faults though as it doesn't show sub-codes on fault codes !

The foxwell handheld was also a good piece of kit when I was looking to buy.

When you see the pro stuff like Auto logic in action, you look on in envy at how good and easy to use they are for re-coding compared to what we can buy.

so can the foxwell unti not code CCF?

I was informed no, and spent my money on a nanocom.

I have a Foxwell 510 and unless someone can contradict me. It won't write to the CCF.

The 510 is a very useful bit of kit at a reasonable price with from last Summer lifetime updates. As I say it has it's limitations.

If you are looking for something more you will have to pay more, unless you get something better secondhand.

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So what can you do in terms of editing the cars CCf files?

What I’m trting to find out is will it be needed as a function or will the foxwell be ok?
Thanks for the help chaps.

What are you trying to do specifically.

Sprry for the late reply.

At the minute nothing as I’m on the hunt for a FL2 but I want to buy a unit that is future proof.

I want to be able to code the CCF if day I retrofit the newer style lights of want to mod the display for showing gear selection on a auto etc etc.

I’d rather buy a unit straight off that can it all rather than buying say the foxwell unit that from what’s been said can’t program CCF’s.

For how much the GAP is to buy, you can buy something like the foxwell that will do 99% of what you what it to do code reading wise. If you are going to do more than six lots of CCF coding, fair enough its money well spent.
If you are going to do it twice then pay somewhere £60 each time for a coding session on their Autologic and keep the rest of the money in your pocket.

The more you flash the ECU the more chance of it going horribly wrong ie a voltage drop or spike while re-coding and bricking the ECU. It then gets very expensive !

Hope this helps you make your decision.

Thank you for that Marcus.

Like I said I may not need to do it but it’s just nice to have that option.

What do you mean by bricking the ECU? Are the LR ECU’s not coding friendly? Please excuse my ignorance, as stated I’m used to VAG’s and been a ken to use VCDS were you can do anything you want and not have to worry about frying anything.

The equivalent of VW ECU coding, here on LR side, is modifying the CCF. The CCF holds the "coding" of all ECUs.
But on VW cars there is no possibility, even with VCDS, to flash an ECU, to alter its main software.
On the other hand, here on LR cars, you can modify the ECU's firmware, because they (LR) give you all ECU firmware and data files.
Now, based on what you've said, changing/retrofitting the lights, is a CCF stuff, so a "coding".
Modifying the instruments to show the auto speed is a flashing thing, as you are changing/reprogramming the ECU's firmware.
So, in a glance, CCF editing is almost trouble free and most of the tools can handle it, but flashing an ECU implies some risks and very few tools can (or their manufacturers choose to) do it.