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The Doctor



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Goodbye new petrol and diesel cars? 23 years away

New diesel and petrol cars banned from UK roads by 2040, as Government unveils new pollution tax on drivers in busiest areas - The Telegraph
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Yorky Bob



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They will recover the lost Fuel Duty / VAT somehow so be prepared to be shafted again. Rolling Eyes FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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Post #327764 25th Jul 2017 10:49 pm
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Steve D



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It's only the sale of new vehicles that will stop being sold from 2040, they're not actually banning petrol and diesel cars and vans from the roads isn't it? Old ones will be probably be allowed to carry on until they naturally expire so we might end up importing used cars from China or India. I predict best ever sales records of new cars in December 2039. Either that or we'll end up with the same car situation as Cuba - cars stuck in a time warp! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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Post #327766 26th Jul 2017 5:53 am
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I'll be in a mobility scooter by then, which are electric, so sorry if I sound selfish, but it wont bother me.

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Post #327768 26th Jul 2017 6:25 am
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Yorky Bob



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RogB



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Believe its only the manufacture and sale of new petrol/diesel cars, so by the year 3000 the last combustion engine may well have given up.... just!

Post #327773 26th Jul 2017 7:22 am
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any mention of airplanes and helicopters ? If its a pollution issue, only last week the papers suggested one plane flight wipes out 20 years of recycling, far worse than cars surely? Also stated within the last week the UK airspace is now at breaking point, too many flights.

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Re: Goodbye new petrol and diesel cars? 23 years away

The Doctor wrote:
New diesel and petrol cars banned from UK roads by 2040

Not according to that article, which talks about moving to electric or hybrid vehicles. And the primary power source in a hybrid? Yup, petrol! So we'll still have petrol cars, they'll just be weighed down with batteries and electric motors too.

And I rather suspect that other technologies will change things significantly long before 2040 - fuel cell vehicles look good if the problems with production, storage and transport of their fuel can be solved.

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Yorky Bob



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Apparently Norway will ban diesel sales after 2025. That will affect sales immediately. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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No mention of heavy lorries and agricultural gear.

Thinking of selling my oil shares and buying more National Grid. A massive investment in charging infrastructure is required and they are ideally situated to benefit from extra electric use. You can forget the flying cars story though as there will be too many wind turbines to negotiate. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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Smallmankey



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Think it is likely that electric will be the way for the future, battery or other storage for this, but am not convinced on the timing being muted for this. Suspect it will slip and will be some way off the 2040 date before it becomes a reality.

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My daughter used to own an old terrace house where the front door opened onto the pavement (sidewalk if you are in USA) and she had to park on the street outside. Often she would be parked 100yds away or even across the other side depending on if she got home early or not. So how do you charge your electric car in these situations? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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Our local council were offering to install free charger units at all properties last couple of years. Unfortunately at the time my fuse box was too old (since upgraded) and I don't have a plug in car so it would be useless for me.

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