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Mav71



Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
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On to pastures new!

Well on Sunday, my Freelander goes off to its new home in North Wales, and hopefully collecting my Discovery Sport HSE Luxury next week!

I'll still pop in on here, but onwards and upwards as they say! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Post #314403 3rd Jan 2017 11:07 am
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j77



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Enjoy Thumbs Up

Though I'm not so sure the DS is upwards. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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Mav71



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Lol, I just love all the negativity about the DS! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Post #314442 3rd Jan 2017 8:51 pm
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taztastic



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It's because ...

A) the majority can't afford one, therfore it's rubbish
B) it is overpriced, so it's rubbish
C) the hi tech stuff doesn't work, so it's rubbish
D) the command driving position is gone, so it's rubbish

It does have rather more space inside though, .... for lots of rubbish Laughing

In all seriousness, it is not that bad, I enjoyed the time I had with it but it lacks something, it doesn't feel a step up from the FL2, which given the latters age, it should.
I am looking forward to your thoughts though Thumbs Up

Post #314445 3rd Jan 2017 9:05 pm
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j77



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I've said it all along, it ain't a bad car but could've been so much better. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Post #314448 3rd Jan 2017 9:19 pm
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LR NUT



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When I drive our DS (not very often) I feel like I'm in an Audi allroad MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
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Post #314449 3rd Jan 2017 9:33 pm
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Tigger



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To be fair, they do make excellent service loan cars Thumbs Up

It takes a while to adjust to driving it, especially with the revvy 2.0 Ingenium engine, its low seating and very car like drive but, once you get used to it, it's very reminiscent of the best bits of my old 1.6 petrol Astramax van Rolling Eyes Heck, that was 30 years ago and there are still fond memories, even if a fair amount of the Astramax really was a bit sh**! Laughing

If you're doing a lot of road miles and don't need loads of space it's a great car.

Naturally, it goes without saying, you're mad to swap a nice FL2 for a DS Wink but the best of luck to you all the same and hope it's the right choice for you Thumbs Up

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Mav71



Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Stornoway Grey

I drove up to the dealer in Bradford to check the car over yesterday (As I hadn't actually seen in it in the flesh) and went for a 20 mile drive.

First impressions are very good.

The negatives -

Yes, the seating position in the Freelander is a little higher, but after looking at the figures, the DS's seat is only 1" lower than the Freelanders, so you are still higher than mr averages car, but I agree not quite as high. Is this going to bother me? No not at all.

The rear view visibility is hindered a little bit by the shape of the car, but not enough to make me think, oh my god this is Censored . (Think Evoque)

The arm rests have gone, but the centre console is high enough and the arm rest on there is adequate.

The ride is a little firmer, but not in a way that spoils it.

The good points -

Extremely comfortable and is for sure at least as comfortable as the Freelander 2.

The steering is very precise compared to the Freelander, and the car feels planted to the road rather than the 'floaty' feel of the Freelander. Thats not a bad thing about the Freelander, as I have enjoyed them for over 9 years.

The trade off is the 'slightly' firmer ride, but I really like that.

Build quality seems perfectly good, no rattles, squeaks or anything like that.

I haven't played with all the toys yet, as i'll do this when I get it home.

With regards to the engine, and I am a big fan of the 2.2 Freelander engine, but the ingenium engine is so more more quieter than the 2.2, throttle pick up is sharper (mines the 180 auto) and less laggy than the 2.2. Maybe this is because it has 9 speed than 6 on my current car. But very smooth, and I can understand why the press have said the DS should never have been launched with the old engine.

Over all, I was impressed. The Freelander was, and still is a great car, and if circumstances change in the future, would I buy another Freelander? Yes of course, in a heart beat.

But time moves on in car design, and yes I have been fortunate enough to get an HSE Luxury, so it does have all the toys. It does feel different to drive than the Freelander, but it still drives like a Land Rover which I like.

I test drove the X3 (good car, but crap SUV), Audi Q5 (lets not go there), Mercedes GLC, exquisit interior and quick in 250d guise, but boring looks and a noisy diesel, also test drove the 400bhp GLC43 AMG, and that was epic!

The new VW Tiguan is also a good car, but just felt boring to drive.

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Post #314629 6th Jan 2017 4:10 pm
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Tigger



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A bit too "VW Golf" for my liking Rolling Eyes But, I like the interior colour and the wheels are quite nice too Wink

And another X3 and Q5 left in their boxes, so it's not all bad news! Razz Laughing

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richardk



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Looks a lovely car I'm sure you'll enjoy it

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Mav71



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taztastic wrote:
It's because ...

A) the majority can't afford one, therfore it's rubbish
B) it is overpriced, so it's rubbish
C) the hi tech stuff doesn't work, so it's rubbish
D) the command driving position is gone, so it's rubbish

It does have rather more space inside though, .... for lots of rubbish Laughing

In all seriousness, it is not that bad, I enjoyed the time I had with it but it lacks something, it doesn't feel a step up from the FL2, which given the latters age, it should.
I am looking forward to your thoughts though Thumbs Up


Thats a very good point! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Post #314653 6th Jan 2017 9:07 pm
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j77



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The Cirrus interior is nice, coupled with the pano roof creates a nice atmosphere.

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Lightwater



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taztastic wrote:
It's because ...

A) the majority can't afford one, therfore it's rubbish
B) it is overpriced, so it's rubbish
C) the hi tech stuff doesn't work, so it's rubbish
D) the command driving position is gone, so it's rubbish

It does have rather more space inside though, .... for lots of rubbish Laughing

In all seriousness, it is not that bad, I enjoyed the time I had with it but it lacks something, it doesn't feel a step up from the FL2, which given the latters age, it should.
I am looking forward to your thoughts though Thumbs Up


We were happy to buy either with cash. Even looked at a few RR Sport but the size of our garage was an issue. The DS is a nice car but probably would go for a Mazda but a CX-9 would have been too long. My sister has an Evoque but it is a lot smaller in the back & does not have a proper 5th wheel.
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Spatch



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Mav71 wrote:

I test drove the X3 (good car, but crap SUV), Audi Q5 (lets not go there), Mercedes GLC, exquisit interior and quick in 250d guise, but boring looks and a noisy diesel, also test drove the 400bhp GLC43 AMG, and that was epic!

The new VW Tiguan is also a good car, but just felt boring to drive.


Would be interested to hear why you thought the X3 was a crap SUV? BMW X3 30d M Sport - Current (problem free)
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LR NUT



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