Erm thanks, I think. That is so comprehensive you could almost be an author for the Haynes manual...

The handbook mentions the Turbo and various other bits n' bobs. When I get over this damn cold I might well attempt it. Only dead fish go with the flow

And to think that on a lot of cars, changing glow plugs is easy, in fact you can buy glow plugs for a lot of French cars in French supermarkets - (and the FL2 engine is a PSA design too so what went wrong?) 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Richard H wrote:

I had problems starting my 2008 FL2 HSE up in the Alps when cold ( -7 to -18 deg C). Back in the UK instructed a LR garage to change all 4 plugs ... Cost £350 ( manifold must be removed). Two plugs were OK and two were open circuit.

Up in the mountains (5000 -7000 ft) you need good fuel, a food battery and 4 glowing glow plugs ... and perhas a good earth cable or cables to the engine and starter ...

I had thought of doing the job myself and thereby saving labour charge (about £230) but decided to entrust the work to my local LR garage, who did a fine job of it. The risk to me was that I might brake the plugs in the engine or damage the thread if it was v v tight. I even reminded the garage to warm the engine first to avoid them doing it .... and me having to pay for a new head or whatever. Apparently, the offside glow plug can be a real b**ger to remove. I estimated that 2 or 3 glow plugs had 'gone' and we found that 2 had gone!

Cheers!

Gapster wrote:

Erm thanks, I think. That is so comprehensive you could almost be an author for the Haynes manual...

Verbatim from the online LR manual I have so a case of don't shoot the messenger.  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

alex_pescaru wrote:

At least you can use a DC clampmeter or even a suited ammeter, as each glow plug draw about 10 amps.
In this way, you can tell how many are working (or not) and if a change is necessary.
The measuring process is done at the glow plug relay place, by removing it and make there the appropriate measure jig.

[quote="The Road Toad"]I have an 07 and it struggled to start with temperatures at -18C in the Alps last winter- I tried everything - start button without depressing clutch etc and it would do the delay start with the clutch down, but took ages to eventually start and I had nearly drained the battery and the white smoke out of the back was, well, impressive!

However, back in the UK the temperature never got that low and so I had no problem starting.

This winter as temperatures dropped it was starting to struggle and I noticed that the Glow Plug display on the dash was not showing up so I decided it was time to get the glow plugs replaced - a really fiddly job so I decided to let my local Indy have the job.

A few days after the job was done I was in Luxembourg and the temperature in the morning was -8C - a good test.

Key fob in, press starter button, Glow Plug symbol on briefly, clutch down press starter again and bingo, immediate start.

If your Glow Plugs are the originals then I would just get them renewed - it does appear to be not an uncommon problem with earlier models.[/quote]

I'm having problems with my 2012 auto. In the alps at 1800m and -14. I've tried pressing the start without the brake pressed but still no help. I don't get any delay the with the brake pressed in, it just cranks straight away. After about 10 goes it eventually splutters into life and is rough as a bag of spanners until it gets going. Never had a problem before but I've not been here with it below -6 or so. I filled up my half empty tank with diesel before coming up the mountain, so it shouldn't be the fuel. The battery is good (well it was!). Got my fingers crossed for Friday when I leave, but I need to get something sorted before next time I come.