Tradewind 35 wrote:

Nice rear, compared to a D5

Mind you, I have an old wheelbarrow that has better rear styling than the D5!

That Shogun looks like a good piece of kit! Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

with all this talk about rear ends I just read this... Wrong type plates


http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/di...es-dealers

ps. I am against squashed rear ends.  If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

I know, funny isn’t it?!

Not sure whether to or ! There are are a few McGovern statements that wouldn’t have looked out of place with “Sad!” written after them

You’ve got to love the Japs fascination with chrome  21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

It's a far east fascination, possibly due to the fact most of their exports are to the 3rd world or the USA and both like chrome, apart from other commonalities.  my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

JulesK wrote:

with all this talk about rear ends I just read this... Wrong type plates
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/di...es-dealers
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That McGovern bloke must have learnt his trade from Mr Bangle at BMW who OKed the Sir Patrick Moore "style" headlamps of their motorcycles. Bloody hideous IMHO.
 MY13 Santorini Black SD4 HSE

Had time on my hands Saturday so went to look in the Skoda dealers at Scarborough. (they have a FL2 for sale by the way).

Looked at the kodiaq in the showroom and came away thinking its a big ,big car to mover around was shown a pre reg Octavia Scout estate car they have, its boot with the seats down are very usable and also 4X4. Maybe one to think about. You loose the command position but gain in many other ways on price especially pre reg.

Probably hang on through to the new Defender but my thoughts are its going to way too expensive as is the DS compared to the FL2 when available. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

I think the Subaru Forester is a good vehicle,I know not as sexy as the LR products but you are getting a lot of kit and a capable vehicle at a not bad price.My pal picked up a 2004 model last year and he has put on 20'000 in a year with out a problem.

If you liked the Scout you would love the Subaru Outback - Ask Martyn B what he thinks. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

22000 miles in 22 months Tenet I love the Outback . Bob it is the load lugger that you need . The perceived downside is that it is 150 horse , as I don’t tow that does not make an ha’porth of difference to me . Also I question the need to give myself more oomph , as around here I can get myself “ scammered “ by just rolling along. It has the same ground clearance as our Freelander , although the body , hence seating position is lower . The full time symmetrical Subaru all wheel drive system is incredibly kind on tyres , I’ve still got over a 1/3 of the tread left from new. As I’ve said before it will go anywhere that a sane person who didn’t want to damage their vehicle would reasonably take it . For anyone who has a hobby that needs you to get a few friends and a boot load of kit across fields, it’s a good choice . The Outback will replace my wife’s Freelander in a few years , as in 2021 when my State Pension kicks in I might just lease something silly for a year or two

Interesting thing about the Outback , ( and I can only think of one other car with the same effect , and that is the ubiquitous Defender ) is that you can go anywhere in it covered in muck and you aren’t automatically vehicle ranked / categorised by the bloke who you park next to . You won’t see any doing the Sainsbury run , but get outside of the city where reliability and versatility counts and you will see quite a few . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

Yes the concept seemed very practicable but did not road test it and the Outback would need to have a flat load-space with the back seats down. Maybe Martyn could comment on that. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

The load space is indeed flat Bob , and 60/40 split rear seats . It’s a much bigger load area than the Octavia , but not quite as big as an A6 or a Superb. The way I look at it is a Subaru is a car that you buy because you are going to run it for 5 or 6 years at which point it will owe you not a lot, and if you want to keep it another 10 then great . Something like the Kodiak has been built to be leased for a few years then chipped in for the next newest and greatest . Subaru are generally pretty accommodating about real test drives , KT Green near Otley let me drive one for half a day , no obligation . Along with many other cars though Bob, they are packed with technology you will either love or hate . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

Technology I used to drive series ones with no heater never mind even a radio. I guess you need need to carry a grandchild around to make the thing work then.

When I rarely get in the wife's sporty thing i am totally lost if its a dark night. Yes you are right, you love it or hate it (technology) but those 3 seats across the old series land rovers did produce far more exciting times than a game of space invaders if you get my drift.  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

I’m a gentleman Bob . On the odd occasion that I carried a female passenger on the third seat of our Defenders , due to them sitting straddling the transmission tunnel , I drove with both hands on the wheel , pressed the clutch pedal , and instructed “ second ! third ! etc. Going for the Low Ratio lever or locking the diff was obviously never attempted

Thing is , with the Scooby , you could set the adaptive cruise , monkey about as you please and( with a bit of luck) if you were so distracted by other goings on it would brake itself to a standstill .. 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .