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RichP Member Since: 21 Sep 2014 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 1369 |
Yes, contact Ryan at customer relations found on the home page, I sure he will be able to help. |
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30th Jan 2016 5:36 am |
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Landiroamer Member Since: 30 Apr 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 1185 |
When is a shock a shock though, a few years back if the whole car lasted 10 years you were doing extremely well, but now folk seem to think they should go on forever fault free?
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30th Jan 2016 5:54 am |
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Rimini HSE Member Since: 18 Jan 2016 Location: North East Posts: 101 |
Freelander 2's were a significant step forward in styling and reliability (over FL1's), they still appear to have some issues, but all cars have failures.
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30th Jan 2016 8:14 am |
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Laverda 3ce Member Since: 12 Sep 2015 Location: Fife Posts: 15 |
I've been driving on/off road for over 50 years covering a fair few hundreds of thousands miles.
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30th Jan 2016 8:19 am |
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nomechanic Member Since: 30 Jan 2016 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 3 |
Surely a shock is a shock if something unexpected happens and costs a lot , like a major part failure in a vehicle you bought assuming was fit for purpose for a reasonable amount of time. Ours has done just over 100k. And yes, a manufacturer should be responsible for major component failure for the expected life of the vehicle, as fairly frequent national press stories show. Consumer legislation specifically deals with this, whether the handbook describes reasonable life or not.
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30th Jan 2016 8:22 am |
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Rimini HSE Member Since: 18 Jan 2016 Location: North East Posts: 101 |
If it makes you feel any better I run a Range Rover 4.2sc...............fingers crossed........touch wood...........etc |
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30th Jan 2016 8:28 am |
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pab Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Now in Mid-Wales Posts: 2006 |
Ordinarily just the warranty period (or maybe not?), but in the case of FL2 diffs there's clearly a problem with reliability and it doesn't seem right that owners have to pay for a design/manufacturing fault. Perhaps we need a process where failures are independently monitored, and manufacturers can be made to repair or replace for free components which show high failure rates. That would also give manufacturers an incentive to fix such problems, rather than just keep churning out cars with known problem areas, as LR seem to have done with FL2 diffs! |
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30th Jan 2016 8:29 am |
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RichP Member Since: 21 Sep 2014 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 1369 |
I think the suggested fluid change interval on the diff is 150k miles (might be wrong?) but you would expect them to at least last that long, or what is the point of having this interval change. Depends on driving, etc. Knowing about potential issues it is up to the individual whether they stick to the recommendations or do the changes more frequent. IMHO if you buy a second hand car not knowing how it has been looked after and used coupled with the potential issues, does it not make sense to check everything out? As a previous post, I don't think you can just buy a car and expect it to be OK indefinitely, there will always be exceptions, but as there is a known potential issue with the diffs, etc. I think it is only right that LR provide assistance when things go wrong. |
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30th Jan 2016 8:54 am |
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Jack frost Member Since: 21 Dec 2011 Location: UK Posts: 796 |
What is annoying Land Rover have known for many years that there was a major fault design with the diff & instead of recalling all Freelander 2's they just berried there heads in the sand & sold many many thousands more FL2 without addressing the problem That gives me full confidence in Land Rover for future purchases (NOT) |
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30th Jan 2016 9:18 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
Given the number of folk (including myself) who have experienced diff and drive train problems as early as 30k miles or less I would say that this is a design issue rather than a reliability issue. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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30th Jan 2016 9:28 am |
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marklp Member Since: 31 May 2013 Location: Porthcawl Posts: 34 |
A diff or gearbox or engine or steering rack etc should be reasonably expected to last the life of the vehicle - which I guess as an average is around 10 years / 150,000. I don't suppose many vehicles last beyond that time, being scrapped for one reason or another. For example, I see hardly any Freelander 1s around any more.
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13th Feb 2016 10:15 pm |
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taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 |
Always makes me laugh. LR might have known? what had probably happened in the background was LR arguing with Haldex and the manufacturer of the diff bearing, trying to find where the problem lay. This is a game no one will win, we are 'taught' never to accept responsibility or blame, never admit 'you're in the wrong' LR, obviously, should shoulder some of the blame ... but so should the manufacturer of the failing components, no one ever will, until the 'fault' becomes significant enough for someone to take notice it will not be resolved. Your wiper blades judder across the screen and its crap LR wipers. They don't make them, why blame LR? If the manufacturers of the failing components cannot agree to a fix, or agree that there is a fault, then how can LR recall the cars? I would really like to know how many failures there have been as a percentage of vehicles sold, I have asked this before, in reality I bet it's quite small, that said, the problem should be addressed and LR, in many cases, they have offered to reduce the cost as a goodwill measure and gone a long way to easing the pain. Who has the latest car to have a failure? With LR producing a Freelander, when in production, every 60 seconds they would have a large number of potential problems go out of the doors before it was caught. |
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13th Feb 2016 10:49 pm |
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taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 |
How could this be policed? It largely is, VOSA will have an idea if it's a 'big' problem. How can you ensure that every vehicle is driven within certain parameters? Impossible, even if limited, as these can be circumvented. LR vehicles are built to endure some of the most demanding situations you can endure, if they wanted it to 'last' indefinitely then surely they would ask that it not be taken off road or driven above 40 mph or 2000rpm. |
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13th Feb 2016 11:08 pm |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
It's called being the prime contractor, their responsibility is to choose and assemble a group of components and for this they earn a fee called their profit. If I have a house built and the builder decides to use balsa wood for the roof timbers I sue the builder and not the guy who chopped the tree down. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto 5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE |
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14th Feb 2016 12:09 am |
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