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pcheaven

Member Since: 19 Jan 2010
Location: Kent
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DS Sport with new engine getting a good review

https://twitter.com/LandRover_UK/status/640971068727955456

seems the engine may have been worth the wait, must take one for a test drive

8th Sep 2015 7:54 am

Landiroamer

Member Since: 30 Apr 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 1185

2015 Freelander 2 TD4_e SE Manual Orkney Grey

Its long term reliability thats important though rather than the initial reports.
Once theyve been in the hands of owner drivers for a couple of years, not testers.

The manufacturers thrash them around the world testing and developing them with out problems, then Old Mr Jones has one to go to the shops everyday and it all clogs up and goes wrong.

I bet the FL2 was excellent for a while after the FL1 problems, then the FL2 clutches and diffs started going .

8th Sep 2015 8:01 am

j77

Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 2909

Fuel economy doesn't seem to be any better, though.

As said above, give it a few years. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

8th Sep 2015 9:56 am

npinks

Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Ls25
Posts: 20090

the engines got better over time, with the TD4/SD4 so i will let others testmule the new engine first Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

8th Sep 2015 11:22 am

dorsetfreelander

Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
Location: Dorset
Posts: 4354

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As my FL2 is in the dealers (again) I have been lent a 15 reg Jaguar XF . The engine is presumably the new Ingenium, it is a 2.2 diesel but it doesn't look like a Freelander engine. However I must say that it is very quiet and smooth with the 8 speed auto. On the motorway at 70 it's doing about 1500 revs and delivers 55mpg. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

8th Sep 2015 4:45 pm

dorsetfreelander

Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
Location: Dorset
Posts: 4354

Landiroamer wrote:

The manufacturers thrash them around the world testing and developing them with out problems, then Old Mr Jones has one to go to the shops everyday and it all clogs up and goes wrong.
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Back in the early 90's I had one of the first Citroen XMs as a company car, that was supposed to have been raced around Death Valley at 50C and then up and down the Alps etc. I soon found that on a hot day in the UK it would cut out when you pulled off a motorway and than backfire when you restarted it. The cure involved a software upgrade and a redesigned air cleaner box with some extra pipework. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

8th Sep 2015 4:53 pm

rchrdleigh

Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
Location: Somewhere in the East of England
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The only Jaguar with the Ingenium engine at the moment is the new XE. Ingenium only comes as a 2.0 litre engine so the 2.2 in the XF certainly won't be an Ingenium.

8th Sep 2015 5:38 pm

dorsetfreelander

Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
Location: Dorset
Posts: 4354

Yes you are correct, I looked it up and it seems that the same PSA based FL2 engine is used on Jaguars but with a lot of differences in terms of turbo, piezo electric injectors etc. Certainly sounds quieter though. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

9th Sep 2015 8:21 am

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