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Landiroamer Member Since: 30 Apr 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 1185 |
Makes you wonder as these components are supposedly filled for life whether anyone in the service department actually bothers to check theres some lubricant in them when rhe cars in for service and more importantly if there is is it at the correct level?
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17th Jan 2016 9:03 pm |
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dunkley201 Member Since: 09 Jul 2011 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 2739 |
The rear "differential" is the gear assembly in the centre of the rear axle inside the cast "lump" in the middle. Its job is to accommodate the differing rotations of the "inside" and "outside" wheels when turning a bend. If the differential was not there the tyres would scrub or judder when turning. The differential is lubricated by oil held within the casing. It does not have a pump. Immediately forward of the differential is the Haldex unit. The purpose of this is to transmit drive to the rear axle via the differential input shaft according to the demands of the traction control. The Haldex unit has a pump and its own oil within its casing. The pump, provides the oil pressure to operate the wet clutches within the Haldex to connect/disconnect the drive to the rear axle as required by the traction control. The differential is known to have had problems with the input bearing (nearest the Haldex). The rear axle is known to have problems with the wheel bearings (at each wheel). Here endeth the lesson.... Bob 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone) 08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone) |
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18th Jan 2016 8:30 pm |
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taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 |
With pictures
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18th Jan 2016 8:52 pm |
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Arese Member Since: 09 Jan 2012 Location: Casablanca Posts: 397 |
impressive ! Thank you dunkley201 for your explanations and taztastic for the video |
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19th Jan 2016 12:05 pm |
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rar110 Member Since: 04 Jan 2016 Location: Queensland Posts: 5 |
So the rear diff does very little, it's mostly a front wheel drive? |
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27th Jan 2016 9:38 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 |
Surely the video shows us that the rear drive is either on or off but that it can come in very quickly if required and as directed by info from the ABS wheel sensors. Thus driving along on a normal road it's mostly in two wheel drive but as soon as a wheel speeds depart from prescribed settings then it cuts in. I also understand that it comes in momentarily when you pull away on a hard surface to give better traction. Sometimes if you pull away on full lock you can hear the tyres scrub for a second or two. Seems a bit over complicated to me. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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27th Jan 2016 9:55 am |
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Stuartc Member Since: 01 Dec 2014 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 2292 |
The Haldex is locked from a standstill up until a certain speed unless slip or terrain response mode requires it to remain locked. Steering angle input also affects level of lock/torque split.
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27th Jan 2016 10:23 am |
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Aussie Battler Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: Apsley Posts: 93 |
While I was repairing my rear diff recently I searched haldex and came across a site dedicated to the ford kuga which shares the same platform as the fl2 and also the FoMoCo Sweden rear diff , the posts concerning thr rear diffs all could have come from this site . I have not got to the volvo site yet as they use the haldex box but maybe they were smart enough to use their own diff
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27th Jan 2016 11:37 am |
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rar110 Member Since: 04 Jan 2016 Location: Queensland Posts: 5 |
Thanks for the replies. |
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27th Jan 2016 1:11 pm |
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Cambo Member Since: 08 Mar 2014 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 408 |
So is there some preventative action we can take on the Haldex unit and the rear diff?
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27th Jan 2016 9:38 pm |
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Aussie Battler Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: Apsley Posts: 93 |
Oil changes are a bit tricky as there ere no drain plugs . The haldex can be drained by removing the unit ,the oil will drain as soon as you seperate it from the diff . Maybe you could extract a small amount of oil fron th haldex unit through the filler plug and if it is still clear you could replace the filter ( volvo part # 31325173 for gen 4 unit) they are not cheap ,I paid $118 Aud and was Quoted up to $132 ,I replaced it while I had the unit out at 120,000 klm . I dont know how you would change the diff oil as it would need to be removed and you need to fabricate a couple of tools to help remove the drive shafts from the diff and a bracket to bolt the diff to a car jack . Not very user freindly . |
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27th Jan 2016 10:54 pm |
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Cambo Member Since: 08 Mar 2014 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 408 |
I was presuming to suck as much fluid out via the fill plug using a syringe and a flexible tube.
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27th Jan 2016 11:09 pm |
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Aussie Battler Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: Apsley Posts: 93 |
Cambo
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28th Jan 2016 3:35 am |
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Jibberingloon Member Since: 28 Jan 2016 Location: Oxford Posts: 36 |
Ok so I bought a HSE 09 plate with 60k on the clock, and have now noticed it has a slight hum at low speed, but very slight.
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28th Jan 2016 1:06 pm |
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