chicken george wrote:

21 to 29 mpg is reported on the journeys on app

29 was an 18mile trip


Edit, thats ignoring the really short journeys from cold, were 20 mpg is never achieved

Petrol is atleast 5% cheaper at the pumps, and no adblu expense, although i doibt i spent more than £50 on adblu in last car

Thanks for that CG  MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

On the first page of this thread, someone mentions a small Disco sport that would be sure to come. 5 years later ....


There's a 2-door Evoque, which doesn't look right. Would a smaller variant Disco Sport or new named LR vehicle be asuccess and really be on the cards?


Many off roaders have (had) 2 door shorter versions (Defender), my Pajero, the Terrano.... but how many soft-roaders do? The SUV 4x4 bubble shape seems to only be in one size fits all.

Prove me wrong!!!

The previous post but one mentions that there was very little adblue useage ..... mmmm

Normally a litre per 800 miles, but towing 1500kg to Cornwall and back (330 miles each way) she used 8 litres in 800 miles, not a fluke as we did the same trip four weeks ago with similar adblue consumption.

Granted the FL2 managed 18-20mpg towing on the same run, the DS manages 22-24mpg, maybe I need a lighter right foot? Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

my £50 spend on adblu, was above the free top ups from the dealers, me 70% dealer 30% approx


no caravan towing obviouslt At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Well after a couple of months of ownership what's my opinion on the DS ? After a couple of weeks we had a faulty front parking sensor which knocked out the front and rear sensors , also the power tailgate wasn't opening as it should . These were resolved with a new front sensor from the dealer after the car was plugged in by my LR mechanic pal , this saved having to go to LR for diagnostic , the tailgate was sorted with a new catch due to a connector corroding in the old one , price for both parts £150 , the parking sensor being nearly £90 alone . The ride is nowhere near as good as the Fl2 even running on the same size 19" wheels , it's quite a firm ride and not to my liking tbh . The interior is a nice place to be but I think it's lacking a bit in quality for a 40k ish when new . The tailgate has also stopped working again and probably needs some sort of reset . The golden question is would I recommend one to someone with a nice Fl2 and my answer to that is a definite NO . I may even return to Fl2 ownership myself if I could locate a very late Sd4 . Some people will love their Ds but I just can't seem to settle with it and deeply regret letting two Fl2's and a chuck of cash go for the Ds . That's my honest opinion and hope it may help some Fl2 owners .

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

Sorry to hear that Mark, seems Freelanders are still the equal of a DS. Certainly priced highly enough still for late low milers. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

I'd say the Fl2 is the better proposition for longterm ownership Bob . If I could find a nice low mileage Sd4 Dynamic in Borolo black with full black leather interior I'd probably out the Ds tbh . I've got a little Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost for running around in and I prefer taking that over the Ds . The first few weeks of Ds ownership was OK but I was constantly comparing it to the Fl2 , the wife's not a big lover either as the driving position is much lower than the Fl2 . Just a bit peeved we got shut of two really good examples and end up with something that where not 100% happy with .

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

Give the DS a chance, it took me 20k before I stopped longing for the FL2.
Of the affordable DS there are three real diesel engine options, the 2.2, the D180 and the D240.

The 2.2 is the Freelander engine coupled to a gearbox that it was never meant to be with. So very reliable but with an annoying gearbox lag. In my mind worth more than the early 2.0 litre Ignium
D180 actually a very nice engine but the software dilutes the oil so you really need to change the oil every 10,000 miles which shouldn't be a surprise with Freelander oil changes every 12,000 miles. I did get to the stage where I was happy with it. but was never going to be happy with the colour - wife's choice.
D240 again Ignium, but without the oil dilution - no idea why, it doesn't. Totally transforms the car, after living with the D240 for a year and 20k I don't think that I would be happy going back to the FL2.

LR are repeating the mistakes they made in the past - I remember the steering rack failures on the early FL2, well the DS has steering rack failures on early models, LR are either paying 100% or a sizable contribution (80%) if out of warranty but dealer serviced. There have been a number of versions of balance shafts, seems to be sorted with the latest version.

But my advice would always be avoid Euro 6 diesels from any manufacturer if you are going to use it for predominantly short journeys. Buy a petrol. Not actually as bad an idea as it sounds, diesels on short journeys are inefficient and take too long to warm up Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

The wife uses it more than me Andy tbh , she's settling in with it but misses the high driving position of the Fl2 . The D240 Ds sounds like the one to have .

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

Another update on the Ds , the tailgate is refusing to open and shut correctly and a faulty strut is required , also the rear nearside inner lamp is letting water in , this has gradually got worse and now will require a new unit . I'm still not bonding with this car and would seriously consider getting shut , the usual places are offering more than what we paid 6 months ago , not sure what it's replacement would be or just sell it and wait until prices settle down . The little Bmax is still running like a dream but doing less miles as I have recently changed jobs and now have a works van .

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

If you really don't need a car now is definitely the time to sell. Long waiting times for new cars are driving up the price of S.hand cars. Just come out of a 3 year lease,!! then you could be waiting for over 12 months for the car of your choice, and need something to fill in - S.hand prices are up +25% on this time last year and are not going to fall any time soon. The bubble has to burst and if you can afford to wait do it. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Just had a reminder from WBAC. A week or two ago I asked for a valuation on my 14 lplate XS SD4 with 60k miles and it came back as £12650. Today it has come in at £11100. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

bxzx16v wrote:

Another update on the Ds , the tailgate is refusing to open and shut correctly and a faulty strut is required , also the rear nearside inner lamp is letting water in , this has gradually got worse and now will require a new unit . I'm still not bonding with this car and would seriously consider getting shut , the usual places are offering more than what we paid 6 months ago , not sure what it's replacement would be or just sell it and wait until prices settle down . The little Bmax is still running like a dream but doing less miles as I have recently changed jobs and now have a works van .

Mark

Cheers Rog for the info 👍

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

Heard good reports on the new "Motorway" car buying site. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings