This is a good test video

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Well spotted muddywheels, one of the best vid's I've seen.

FL2 keeps up with everything else.

There's a couple of shots of wading in deep water.

Just a reminder for FL2's in water ... the air intake is just behind the leftside headlamp, that should be your measure of how deep you want to go !!!!!!


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avtur wrote:

Just a reminder for FL2's in water ... the air intake is just behind the leftside headlamp, that should be your measure of how deep you want to go !!!!!!

Indeed, though my instructon on a recent LRE day said that the official wading depth is set at 500mm because of the possibility of buoyancy and to be wary of entering deep flowing water.

freebo wrote:

avtur wrote:

Just a reminder for FL2's in water ... the air intake is just behind the leftside headlamp, that should be your measure of how deep you want to go !!!!!!

Indeed, though my instructon on a recent LRE day said that the official wading depth is set at 500mm because of the possibility of buoyancy and to be wary of entering deep flowing water.

Matei wrote:

.......Off road is not covered over here and if you go to your insurance with something you cannot explain otherwise they won't pay (ind you they always hassle if they have to pay. Warranty would certainly be invalidated and I'll end up with repairs I don't even want to know what the costs would be.

Off road not covered on normal Insurance here too.

LR Insurance used to cover off road - not sure if they still do.

Not sure about warranty - but they are sold as off road vehicles

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Matei wrote:

.......Off road is not covered over here and if you go to your insurance with something you cannot explain otherwise they won't pay (ind you they always hassle if they have to pay. Warranty would certainly be invalidated and I'll end up with repairs I don't even want to know what the costs would be.

Off road not covered on normal Insurance here too.

LR Insurance used to cover off road - not sure if they still do.

Not sure about warranty - but they are sold as off road vehicles [/quote]


I think that the dealer LR will first argue that you took the car through a deeper water than 500 mm as they have their own insurance and than it would be a problem to prove that that speciffically crossing was or was not over 500 m. As this is big money they might refuse coverage and I'll end up sueing which is allways tricky. It wiil all depend if I could proove that the wadding depth was under 500 mm easily as I am requesting reimbursment or warranty cover. It will end up by trying to find out if that particular crossing is monitorisied and if an expert can demostrate if at the wadding croosing time the water level was under or over 500 mm in that particular spot which again is tricky. I work with claims - try to get money from insurance companies/ not cars-ships and know that the bigger the claim the easier for an expert to say exactly what the guy who hires him wants to hear. Betterto be over carefull while wadding FREELANDER 2 TD4 SE (XS UK) IZMIR BLUE SIDE STEPS COLD PACK BI-XENON TINTED WINDOWS - AND PROUD OF HER

muddywheels wrote:

Not sure about warranty - but they are sold as off road vehicles

Had this conversation with a technician at stealership. He was handing car back to me after fixing a suspension fault. We were having a good chat about the car and he asked 'have you been off road in it?' Well, bearing in mind that its been up to its axles in mud at the bottom of a quarry (amongst other places!) I thought there's no point denying the car goes off road, and the techy knew full well it had been off road, he'd already been under the car and seen the evidence for himself, there are some places you just can't get to with the powerwasher

After telling him just what I have done with the car he was quite OK, we agreed it was off an off road car and thats just what I did with it. I take my lead from what I've seen the cars do at LR Experience events. It seems the techies like to see cars that are being used properly. Certainly got the impression that if they were fixing a car that had been off road they would be more sympathetic with warranty claims

Matei wrote:

I think that the dealer LR will first argue that you took the car through a deeper water than 500 mm as they have their own insurance and than it would be a problem to prove that that speciffically crossing was or was not over 500 m. As this is big money they might refuse coverage and I'll end up sueing which is allways tricky. It wiil all depend if I could proove that the wadding depth was under 500 mm easily as I am requesting reimbursment or warranty cover. It will end up by trying to find out if that particular crossing is monitorisied and if an expert can demostrate if at the wadding croosing time the water level was under or over 500 mm in that particular spot which again is tricky. I work with claims - try to get money from insurance companies/ not cars-ships and know that the bigger the claim the easier for an expert to say exactly what the guy who hires him wants to hear. Betterto be over carefull while wadding

I take your point on wading depths - goes without saying

As far as other warranty claims go - considering LR are a brand aimed at Farmers and off road users they would be hard pushed to dismiss warranty claims if you used your vehicle off road - as demonstrated on LR Experience days, etc - excluding obvious off road abuse/damage from rocks, trees, etc.

My local dealer did an off road open day and all vehicles were cleaned and back on the forecourt after the event.

I dont think publicity from owners using them as they were intended and being refused warranty claims would do the brand much good - they would be admitting the vehicle was inferior.

Definately there would be no issue from LR if the car has been used offroad.

Here the insurance covers offroading, which is just as well given the state of some of the roads!! The rental 4x4's don't have the sticker saying do not use offroad like the UK rental companies puts in their 4x4's.

Gambba wrote:

Definately there would be no issue from LR if the car has been used offroad.

Here the insurance covers offroading, which is just as well given the state of some of the roads!! The rental 4x4's don't have the sticker saying do not use offroad like the UK rental companies puts in their 4x4's.

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Matei wrote:

.....The problem with wading unknowncrossings is that even if you first have a ook from the bank you cannotexacty appreciate the difficulty of a crossing. Therefore I will have to postpone any waddings that might be too dangerous untill as said I will be mre experienced

I believe the correct method is to walk the crossing and check depth and obstacles before entering the water. Totaly impractical but there you go

muddywheels wrote:

Matei wrote:

.....The problem with wading unknowncrossings is that even if you first have a ook from the bank you cannotexacty appreciate the difficulty of a crossing. Therefore I will have to postpone any waddings that might be too dangerous untill as said I will be mre experienced

I believe the correct method is to walk the crossing and check depth and obstacles before entering the water. Totaly impractical but there you go

Yes you are right but than, except the fact that youhave to put on Wellington boots and fisherman trousers to cross the wadding first and than go back unpack the boots and trousers as you don't want muddy the nice interior colors (beige in my case) you must lso be able to estimate howmuch the river bead will let go under the FL2's two tons which I think is not so tricky if gravel but much more difficult if sand and mud. Than you'll have to go on the track you consider the right wheel will take and go back on the left wheel tra ck. I am not saying that this is supposed to be easy but I think I'll first have to try something more easy. FREELANDER 2 TD4 SE (XS UK) IZMIR BLUE SIDE STEPS COLD PACK BI-XENON TINTED WINDOWS - AND PROUD OF HER