In my city, with well-lit streets, many vehicles are driven even past midnight, without headlights switched on. I find it interesting as I am not sure why this is happening. On my street, an average of 30 vehicles per hour. It is in an upmarket neighbourhood and most of these vehicles are fairly new and supposedly roadworthy.


Running daylights - LED's - will cure much of this over time, but meanwhile lives get endangered. I suppose that the cause of this lies somehwere between bright street lights (but they drive like this in unlit areas as well) and that some drivers are pre-occupied and not sufficiently assertive.


Anyone here see the same where you are living?

Running on DRLs at night in the UK is illegal. If you have this problem, and they do it out of town as well, it's got nothing to do with bright city lights just F ing stupid drivers.

Ben Twillie wrote:

Running on DRLs at night in the UK is illegal. If you have this problem, and they do it out of town as well, it's got nothing to do with bright city lights just F ing stupid drivers.

No very uncommon in AUS. Police would sting you straight away in any major town and the majority just have the sense to turn them on. I could pretty confidently say that anyone here driving with them off would have forgot, not kept them off intentionally.
How hard it is, just leave them on AUTO

Our authorities are too polite to offend. This leads to complacency.


I have been advocating running daylights since 1980.


In my city, it is OK to arrive 2 hours late for a meeting, if at all. I find it despicable and I am intolerant of incompetence. Even so, I have to make peace with the polite and learn to allow for the complacent. Most of the offenders are educated, sophisticated folks driving cars that the average person cannot ever afford.


My concern is the lives lost in the process. I have been told by a certain alderman in charge of the city's safety and security to lay off as we only have between 3 and 4 road fatalities per day and that the number has been declining over the past decade. It is the only city in my country that could achieve this. Elsewhere in the country, the situation is worsening but not because of no headlights.

I dont know if theres a limit as to how many or how bright your DRL's can be because they dont half dazzle even in bright daylight, on cars like the Audi's for instance, they have around 10 in each headlight??

Also you hear of more accidents occurring, not because they drive without light or necessarily speeding either, but because people are falling asleep at the wheel That might be due to the fact modern cars are so comfortable and you now only need to steer it as everything else is done for you, its seems like a mobile bed?

It happens a lot around here don't know why. Unsafe but not illegal, unless I have interpreted it wrong.

Highway Code 1999

Section 93 lighting requirements

You must use headlights at night, except on restricted roads (those with street lights not more than 185 meters (600 feet) apart and which are generally subject to a speed limit of 30mph)

May have changed since then.

EDIT- it is now section 113, and the wording has changed slightly. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

We all have auto lights, So the car tells us when its getting dark..