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Boroboy



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Poss cold starting issues?

My 58 FL2 td4 does not seem to be the best first time starter from cold. It was -2 this morning, started engine. Turned over quickly, tried to fire up quickly, but then cut out. Re-fired up again & started up OK. This seems to happen often when starting from cold, 0c or below.
Could this be a problem relating to the glow plugs? Or is this within the realms of normal cold starting for a FL2?
Thanks. Landy has now gone.

Post #175110 11th Mar 2013 9:30 pm
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This topic has Been covered recently have you tried searching Rolling Eyes Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #175112 11th Mar 2013 9:39 pm
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Luggs



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This may be the one

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic14357.html?highlight=glowplugs

I am sure that there used to be better instructions on the search page, showing explanations regarding + and other things, or is my memory thinking of another site?

I appreciate it is annoying to have to point out the search feature, but can we not do it in a slightly more supportive way? We are here to pool resources and information after all Smile

No doubt nailing another one in my coffin. Never tell me the odds.

Post #175118 11th Mar 2013 9:53 pm
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I've found searching via google turns up more of what you want, try searching "freel2 cold starting" it finds more useful threads than using the site search facility and searching for "cold starting" Thumbs Up

Post #175122 11th Mar 2013 10:00 pm
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Try using the site search facility by filtering out threads you don't need and search as posts rather than topics.
It has been flagged up with Martin too, maybe it needs tightening up a little?

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Boroboy



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Re: This may be the one

Luggs,
Appreciate the link.
The landy starts, but then cuts out. No delay prior to starting.
Should have used the search function Shocked Landy has now gone.

Post #175126 11th Mar 2013 10:46 pm
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Boroboy



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Taztastic,
Thanks for info. My first d, plenty of exp with petrol engines, Very little with the d’s. Had a good look through the site now. Virtually no delay prior to starting, so may be glow plug related. I'll put it on the repair list Laughing Landy has now gone.

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Mr Moo



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You may have already found this from your search, but if the car isn't introducing any delay before it starts cranking then the glowplugs won't have time to do their pre-heating and it will probably start in a rather lumpy way. Try the following:-

Insert key fob
Without pressing down on the clutch (manual gearbox) or brake (auto box), press and hold the 'start' button until the dash lights come on. This should initiate the glow plugs.
Wait for perhaps 5 seconds or so (gives time for the glow plugs to heat up)
Depress clutch or brake pedal
Press 'start' again and hopefully the old girl should fire up a bit more readily.

Hope this helps. If it doesn't, it might suggest that the glow plugs are not working very well. In really cold weather, you can repeat the first three stages a couple of times to cycle the glow plugs more than once.

Cheers

Post #175165 12th Mar 2013 11:15 am
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Glow plugs

May i suggest to Search under 'glow plugs replacement and how to change'
I've done the work on my 2010GS. Perhaps buy two new glows before you start and pick tools up.
Regards to all

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Boroboy



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Mr Moo,
Thanks for taking the time to post this information; she started this morning, just lumpy for the first few seconds. Then OK. My wife mainly uses the landy. I will follow your suggestions & see how it goes Thumbs Up Couldn't seem to find this info in the owners manual.

Cheers. Landy has now gone.

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Boroboy



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Re: Glow plugs

Fredastaire,
Have a local independent who would change all the g plugs for £130 all in. Having MOT done in April there, along with front wheel bearing/hub replacement. I will she how she goes until then.
Thanks for info. Landy has now gone.

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Mr Moo



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Boroboy,

You won't find those instructions in the manual! According to the manual, they should start in the way that you and your lady wife are using. However, when I moaned to the dealer after first getting ours and experiencing poor winter starting, they said that the way that I've described was 'coorect'. I didn't point out to them that it wasn't in the manual. A lot of people on here have had the drivers at the Land Rover Experience recommend using the way I've described.

Seems a bit daft having an automatic start / glowplug system that doesn't wait long enough before it starts cranking!

Post #175215 12th Mar 2013 3:41 pm
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Boroboy



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Mr Moo,
Car manufacturers never seem to make it easy for us. Not that ours will be seeing a dealer again Laughing I've not had the best start with our Landy over the last 6 months, but still sticking with her. When 0 & below will try as you have suggested.
Bought myself a high lift trolley jack last week, had all the wheels off to inspect brakes. All looking good. That's a bonus.

I tried the new starting procedure this morn, started very well & fired up first time. Wasn't quite as cold this morn, had around 4" of snow over night though. Will try it again tomorrow, going to be alot colder tonight.

Thanks again for info Thumbs Up Landy has now gone.


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Boroboy wrote:

Bought myself a high lift trolley jack last week,.

Hope you're using correct jacking points? See https://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/user...acking.pdf

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Boroboy



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Past master,
I certainly did, have jacked up a few vehicles in my time Laughing already had a trolley jack, but didn't lift high enough. If I were to do any work on Landy after jacking up (brakes etc), would use axel stands too.
I was amazed my the weight of the Freelander & the wheels Shocked Compared to my Astra Laughing
Thanks for the safety info. Landy has now gone.

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