Good morning to all.
From reading many posts it seems that we are all driving around in a posh Mongrel or is it a professional Kit-Car.
A French Peugeot / Citroen Diesel engine breathed on by Ford and made in Dagenham.
Powertrain from Volvo (Sweden?)
Suspension / Brakes from Ford (Galaxie?, Germany?)
Please can other members add and amend and add detail to the above as it might help all of us when sourcing parts and sorting problems / fault finding as the net may have other forums for other donor cars where problems might have been solved.
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Exactly what did LR design themselves. 2010GS Auto ex Celeb, Santorini Black, 2011 facelift , spoiler, spats, mudflaps, LED footwell lamps, Witter detach,
Other cars:-
1958 & 1959 Austin J40 Pedal Cars under restoration (I make many J40 parts)
If you have an Austin J40 or Pathfinder Pedal Car looking for a new home pls PM me.
2009 Meriva

The floorpan is the previous Ford S Max.

It's normal practice to use the 'parts bin'.
Tooling is devilish expensive, let alone the R&D costs. If L/R had designed a lot more by themselves, the cost of such would be passed onto the customer.
I've no problem with any VM using the 'parts bin'. It makes economical sense. Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

The FL2 / LR2 is the sister vehicle to the Volvo XC60. If you have a petrol engine (pre-2013) instead of the Diesel it is exactly like the XC60 with different styling and better off road capability. Don't know anything about the Peugeot Diesel also used in FL2, because we don't get them in Canada. Ford was considering building them both in the same factory, before the break up of the Ford Premier Auto Group (PAG), and of course they staggered the release dates. In North America Ford basically dumped there own aging car platforms (except trucks) and adopted Volvo and Mazda platforms (when they still owned them). So most of the Ford platforms used in the last decade were basically renamed Volvo or Mazda platforms. Eg. Ford Taurus, FL2, Edge used a platform originally from the Volvo S80. The previous generation Ford Fusion and Escape used a platform from the Mazda 6.

According to an interview I saw, a Volvo rep said they did the base design (??) then handed it off to Land Rover who did the "Off road" for both vehicles (FL2 & XC60) , FL2 Interior/exterior style, Suspension, Nav, stereo, and other LR bits back in 2004/05. I'm sure a lot of work for both parties.

Don't forget the Japanese autobox.

Personally, as a North American LR2/FL2 driver, I enjoy having the Volvo engine. It's very reliable, very refined, but can still kick arse when I need it to off-road. Perfect engine for both on-road and off-road prowess.

I think the "world vehicle" nature of the LR2 is part of its appeal, as far as I'm concerned. The DVD nav unit has a Volvo logo on it, while a few other parts under the hood have clear FoMoCo stamps. The Swedish 4WD system is cool, too. I feel like I'm driving the automotive version of "The Lexus and the Olive Tree" every day.

Here in the US, off-road vehicles from European countries are constantly put up to competition/ridicule. A few weeks ago, a Toyota 4Runner bogged down on the beach in my county. My LR2 effortlessly plowed right past it, and then helped pull the 'Yota out of its spot. My 'Frankencar' saved the day, as it has through hurricanes, coastal storms and floods here on New Jersey's barrier islands.

This is my first Landie, but I'm now a fan for life and will never drive anything else!  CAR HISTORY
1997 Saab 900 SE 2.0 Turbo
2003 Volkswagen Passat 1.8T
2008 Land Rover LR2 SE 2.3 I6

TurboDan

Is your LR2 a petrol or diesel? Your signature says it is a 2.3 . In the UK the FL2 is ether a 2.2 diesel or a 3.2 petrol. Do you get different engine options in the US? Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

My signature reads 2.2 diesel. Here in the UK I only read of the 2.2 Diesel, I have the full 2012 sales brochure to hand and there is no mention of a Petrol at all. My engine is 201MY 160PS auto without DPF and is a Ford/Peugeot/Citroen DW12BTED4, there was a change in 2011MY to include DPF with a reduced 150PS and high output 190PS but only with Auto. I don't know if it is a variant on the DW12 or if it is a 100% different engine; perhaps another member can add info? 2010GS Auto ex Celeb, Santorini Black, 2011 facelift , spoiler, spats, mudflaps, LED footwell lamps, Witter detach,
Other cars:-
1958 & 1959 Austin J40 Pedal Cars under restoration (I make many J40 parts)
If you have an Austin J40 or Pathfinder Pedal Car looking for a new home pls PM me.
2009 Meriva

Steve D wrote:

TurboDan

Is your LR2 a petrol or diesel? Your signature says it is a 2.3 . In the UK the FL2 is ether a 2.2 diesel or a 3.2 petrol. Do you get different engine options in the US?

Well, looking again, it says 2.3 I6. Is that the V6 petrol engine that we have? I suspect it could be a typo on his signature. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

fredastaire wrote:

My signature reads 2.2 diesel. Here in the UK I only read of the 2.2 Diesel, I have the full 2012 sales brochure to hand and there is no mention of a Petrol at all. ...

I need to correct you 2.0 was introduced at 12MY for China, Poland and Turkey. Everywhere else followed at 13MY. So for a while 2.0 and 3.2 were built alongside each other

It is not as black and white as made out on here. The XC60 and FL2/LR2 are significantly different under the skin, to the point that I understand only the brakes are interchangelable.

Even the 2.2 TD4 engine is unique to Land Rover, up until the SD4 came out, LR had the TD4 engine built to their own specification, then when the SD4 was released, Ford actually adpoted the LR spec engine.

It is the same with the 2.0 Si4 turbo engine. LR were blowing turbo's and head gaskets all the time during development of their version of the engine, and Ford would not have it that it was as weak as LR made out.

Funny though, because as soon as LR had finished developing it to 240bhp, Ford then also adopted this spec engine for the new Focus ST!

All will be different soon though, the new modular design 4 cylinder engine which will debut in the facelift Evoque in about 18 months time will be a 100% LR engine.

The same 4 cylinder block will be used for both the petrol and deisel engines. Also the same 2.0 4 cylinder block will be used in applications from 150bhp to 500bhp!! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Thanks Mav for your input; I was rather wondering what proffessional Kit car I had bought!
With your in depth knowledge , despite the differences, did Volvo do the oringinal design concept work for the FL as suggested by others above ?
Whatever, I am rather enjoying my FL 2010GS, I just wish it was a HSE however I bought what appeared on Ebay at the time.
they are rather good arn't they! 2010GS Auto ex Celeb, Santorini Black, 2011 facelift , spoiler, spats, mudflaps, LED footwell lamps, Witter detach,
Other cars:-
1958 & 1959 Austin J40 Pedal Cars under restoration (I make many J40 parts)
If you have an Austin J40 or Pathfinder Pedal Car looking for a new home pls PM me.
2009 Meriva

I can 100% state that Volve had no input into the R&D of the FL2. The only thing they share are the brakes and the 6 cylinder engine, and some of the electrical switchgear.

All manufacturers will dip in to the parts bin of other group companies, like the FL2 electric window switches are also found in Volvo's.

But FL2 is unique under the skin, most of the competition use full multilink rear suspension, where LR use McPherson struts front and rear, which is why they are so good off road. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Freelander is one of the vehicles that fell under the Ford "EUCD" umbrella in that it was a group of vehicles that shared platform and a number of ancillary components and powertrain. Design and engineering responsibility for the vehicles was carried out at "brand level", e.g. Ford responsible for Ford, LR for LR, Volvo for Volvo.

Other EUCD product:

Ford S-Max
Ford Galaxy
Volvo XC60
Volvo V70
Volvo S80
Ford Falcon[list=]

Mav71 wrote:

It is not as black and white as made out on here. The XC60 and FL2/LR2 are significantly different under the skin..."

Mav71 wrote:

All will be different soon though, the new modular design 4 cylinder engine which will debut in the facelift Evoque in about 18 months time will be a 100% LR engine.