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Annjeo Member Since: 28 Apr 2013 Location: Northamptonhire Posts: 103 |
I don't wish to get involved in the argument above, but having read this topic it has caused me to wonder whether this is something ALL Freelanders will do, given the right circumstances, or whether this as other elements, a MODEL driven issue.
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24th Jul 2013 6:50 pm |
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fredastaire Member Since: 03 Dec 2012 Location: Holbrook Posts: 721 |
Lets take a different approach on the assumption that you like and want the car if the problem was sorted.
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24th Jul 2013 8:48 pm |
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Annjeo Member Since: 28 Apr 2013 Location: Northamptonhire Posts: 103 |
Hi Chris, yep the MY13 has a Key Fob that uses Lithium coin cells either CR 2025 or 2032, don't remember which off-hand so no charging problems. I believe you can spec Keyless Entry, but my XS is an ex-demo and didn't have it fitted, but it still has Keyless Starting as standard. Having just the latter I wish I could have added the Keyless Entry option as well as it seems pointless to have one without the other. Joanne Freelander 1.8 Petrol XEi Jan 1998 - 2004 Freelander 2 (MY13) SD4 Auto XS (Mauritius Blue) - May 2013 onwards |
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24th Jul 2013 9:02 pm |
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pab Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Now in Mid-Wales Posts: 2006 |
Fred, with a bit of modification what you suggest should work. I would, however, regard it as essential to isolate the servo from the car's wiring before applying power to it. If you don't do that you're effectively powering the car from the 'wrong' end, and with the car in sleep mode that power could end up in places you don't expect, overloading and damaging things in the process. (Of course, adequate isolation might already be present, but one would need to check first.)
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25th Jul 2013 8:43 am |
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rchrdleigh Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere in the East of England Posts: 1601 |
Keyless entry is not available on 2013MY Freelander's of any specification. |
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25th Jul 2013 8:45 am |
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Annjeo Member Since: 28 Apr 2013 Location: Northamptonhire Posts: 103 |
I stand corrected.
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25th Jul 2013 2:20 pm |
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isbjorn Member Since: 22 Jul 2013 Location: Cumbria Posts: 4 |
This thread starts with someone reporting the same problem which I have experienced, followed by quite a bit of "guessing" about what the root of the problem is and how it might be addressed. My intial post was intended to be a definitive account of the problem so that it there as a permanent record for all those who encounter it in the future. If forum users read my first post again, with a calm mind, they will realise that it is a detailed factual account of the cause and explanation of the problem (as provided to myself by Landrover), an account of what has happened to my vehicle as a result and an analysis of how it is virtually impossible for an owner to exercise control over this risk manifesting itself. Collectively, it explains the problem, the possible consequences for owners and hopefully, will save owners also going down all the dead ends which I have already explored in trying to get around the problem - it is not a rant. If I wrote it again, the only thing I would change is perhaps not to have included the emoticon, which may have inadverently "set the wrong scene" at the start - I included the emoticon because with my pattern of useage of the vehicle, I am likley to be caught out by the sleep mode on a repetitive basis. I am disappointed that such a constructive, positive contribution, intended to help others,has been taken negatively by a few people (including an unnecessary well disguised derogatory comment referring to the Cerne Abbas giant, which contributed nothing to the discussion - npinks please note who threw the first stone). I did not make the contribution to seek either solutions or sympathy but, if suggestions of solutions arise, then that's an unexpected bonus.
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26th Jul 2013 12:19 am |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
You did rant, or is one of the lines"DO NOT BUY LAND ROVER" not ranting. The Wiltshire connection if you had bothered to look through the forum,another member from Wiltshire has had exactly the same problem. Your problems have been a drop in the Ocean to what he has had, in a couple of months he will be taking delivery of another Freelander 2. http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic13457.html Finally, Cerne Abbas is in Dorset. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior |
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26th Jul 2013 5:55 am |
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pab Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Now in Mid-Wales Posts: 2006 |
Not to mention referring to "this rubbish car" and dismissing someone who actually tried to be helpful as having a "shoulder-shrugging roll-over stance". (Which I don't, in fact, have. I just don't have a problem with this feature - for me it's fine. I don't care. And even if I did I have far more important things to get excited about than the positioning of a door lock!)
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26th Jul 2013 8:06 am |
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pab Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Now in Mid-Wales Posts: 2006 |
Just to respond (constructively) to a couple of other points:
True there's nothing in the manual, but investigations by others here have put together a pretty complete picture of what happens and when - including things like the battery voltage at which sleep will be triggered, etc. There are also various suggestions regarding how to regain access to the car (although most involve physical effort). A search of the forum before posting would have been a good idea, starting with the thread ad210358 helpfully references.
As a software engineer I can tell you that no manufacturer would contemplate a software modification for an individual user, or a small group of individuals. Obviously it's technically possible - in fact easy - it's software. But that's only a tiny part of what's required, particularly where the software involved has safety implications. There are all kinds of testing, documentation and approval processes to be gone through before an update can be released. Then future maintenance becomes a nightmare - every time the master codebase is updated 'your' patch has to be re-applied (and the whole thing re-tested), otherwise 'your' next update would wipe out your bespoke functionality. So, no, unless it's something which is going to become part of the next update for everyone you won't get the software updated. And the sleep mode is a useful feature which LR are highly unlikely to want to remove (and nor, IMO, should they).
That's something of an over-reaction just because you don't like the positioning of a door lock! If you try hard enough you'll find irritations like this on any vehicle - most much more serious. The FL2 isn't perfect - no car is - but it's still a very good car indeed and (as far as I'm concerned) better than anything else in its class at the moment. Seriously, 'chill out' and enjoy it. It's a good car. |
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26th Jul 2013 8:42 am |
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outlear Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Perth Posts: 10 |
I agree with Pab that the sleep mode should not be ditched. However it would be nice if was linked to the battery charge i.e. when you leave your car for a month with the battery on trickle charge it recognises this and doesn't go sleep. |
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10th Jun 2016 5:19 am |
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fredastaire Member Since: 03 Dec 2012 Location: Holbrook Posts: 721 |
Albeit not on the freelie, I've got out of flat battery trouble by back feeding 12 volt through the live pin of the tow bar socket.
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10th Jun 2016 7:34 am |
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Walenut Member Since: 17 Jun 2012 Location: Midlands Posts: 116 |
I've posted this on another thread but thought I post it here also, might help.
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11th Jun 2016 9:38 am |
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Stuartc Member Since: 01 Dec 2014 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 2292 |
Maybe! I'm still working on activating this function as the CCF fields are there, but it's a Combination activation and I havn't got that right as yet and I'm busy with other activations. MY15 Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) Surround Camera System InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP) Meridian Premium Surround Sound Digital Audio Broadcast Timed Climate Cruise ECO Data Follow Me Home Reverse Extra Features Menu Picture In Motion 4x4i screen (WIP) Digital Broadcast TV Meridian Rear Media with WIFI Factory Powered Tailgate Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM) Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP) |
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11th Jun 2016 10:10 am |
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