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nicam Member Since: 21 Feb 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 236 |
It could be that you are are a hill that is not steep enough to overcome the engine braking in 1st gear, so the HDC is not actually controlling the speed, the engine is. Try a clear, gentler hill but with the car in neutral (!!) and HDC on. It should roll off and then be held by the brakes, probably making a lot of noise, at the HDC set speed - which will now be adjustable. It does take a very steep hill to overcome engine braking in 1st. Don`t do this for any distance as it works the brakes quite hard, unnecessarily. Don`t drive faster than your angel can fly! |
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18th Jan 2013 11:44 am |
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Ooma Member Since: 14 Mar 2012 Location: Uk Posts: 94 |
Well, i've had a chance to test all your snow driving wisdom today, and it has faired well. here's my thoughts after trying it all out.
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18th Jan 2013 12:04 pm |
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apc67 Member Since: 19 Jul 2011 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 71 |
Thanks for the Hill Descent tip - I used HDC this morning to really good effect. GGS was not required as normal setting copes easily. The looks from other motorists as I drove past them in the outside lane was priceless...... |
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18th Jan 2013 12:09 pm |
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hutchingsp Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 90 |
I was out in mine in snow for the first time today (Midlands so we had around 4 inches of the stuff by 11am this morning).
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18th Jan 2013 5:28 pm |
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Ben Twillie Member Since: 19 Feb 2012 Location: Home Posts: 120 |
The auto box gives you excellent engine braking. Just approach the top of the hill slowly, so you are in a low gear, and descend without touching the throttle and the box will hold the gear and not change up. You can still brake without it changing up. If you want to change down manually then select Command Shift and select the gear you want.
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18th Jan 2013 5:44 pm |
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hutchingsp Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 90 |
Interesting, I didn't tackle too many hills but that's how it felt, as if without hitting the brake the car would build up speed under its own momentum - I probably need to spend a bit more time getting used to it. |
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18th Jan 2013 5:47 pm |
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Stevie5tapes Member Since: 10 Jun 2012 Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE Posts: 1370 |
Had a kind of strange experiance with mine today in the snow, I reckon its down to lack of experiance on my part as its the first time driving an FL2 in the snow. Half an inch of snow today at work, as I left work I went up the access road that bends as it goes over a bridge. Driving at about 10 mph and as I was going up the bridge the car skidded side ways. I took my foot of the gas and the car stopped. Then I set off back up the hill and it was fine. Then at home the side street was covered in only half inch of snow and as I turned into a side street the car skidded slightly as I put more or less full lock on. Again i was going less that 10 mph. So as i'm a complete novice i'd say its something for my self to watch out for. Tyres have all 4mm on them so maybe its time to change tyres? Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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18th Jan 2013 6:00 pm |
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casper Member Since: 25 Oct 2010 Location: Bedford Posts: 94 |
Just tried out my new set of Nokian tyres WR G2 Sport Utility 235/65 R17 108V XL BSW in the snow and forget the Conti's, Pirelli, Michelin these are the business, they give you total grip in ice/snow/water. Check out how they test these tyres on their website and you can see why these are so good. You can also run them all year round as well and they are slightly cheaper then some of the premiums mentioned and wear is ok on the tests. Got mine from Mytryes online delivered to local fitter within 3 working days from Germany. Before this only had Conti's fitted which cost more and only last 24k and frankly I got fed up with how useless they are in the winter ice even the cross contact was only marginally better. A tiny bit more road noise is the only compromise but now I have a freelander that can go anywhere in the conditions it was designed and I would say about 60% more grip then before. |
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18th Jan 2013 6:01 pm |
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rchrdleigh Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere in the East of England Posts: 1601 |
If you look at rules for driving in the Alps, All Season Tyres, such as Continental 4x4 Contacts must have a minimum tread depth of 4mm. On that basis i'd suggest you ought to be considering changing tyres. Was out in a LR Experience Freelander today which had done only 2000 miles on a set of Continental Contact UHP. Absoulutely brilliant in the snow both on the off road tracks and also when going onto fresh snow covered grass. Didn't get stuck once and the only time we had any wheelspin was deliberate. Then took my own Freelander home, done 24500 miles on Continental 4x4 Contacts, tread 4mm at the front and 5mm at the back. No problems going on the flat and uphill and no problems going downhill when i set it up properly. Probably need to look at changing tyres before too long and certainly before trip to Austria in late March |
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18th Jan 2013 6:10 pm |
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Pedro Member Since: 01 Apr 2010 Location: Very near Pig Hill Posts: 449 |
Had a shockingly difficult drive to work today which took twice as long as usual with numerous 2 wheel drive cars (with summer tyres no doubt) struggling up hills. We had 4 to 5 inches of snow here and my biggest worry was some prat sliding into me. I had to use HDC repeatedly and also did the whole 1 hour journey in snow mode and the FL2 was faultless (Although it did defy the laws of physics and auto wipe half a windscreen's worth of snow into my drivers footwell at the start ?!?!?!?!?!?). I am SO glad that i did an LRE a few years back as otherwise the HDC noises would have freaked me out !! My colleague also made it into work in his R reg disco although he did manage to fishtail himself into a 180 degree spin on the way - something to do with his brakes or his ' chinese ditchfinder' tyres me thinks !!!! The 'wisdom' is that a 4-wheel drive is worth NOTHING, other than 4 wheels spinning instead of 2, unless you have got the right tyres. Indeed, I was very much able to tour Germany in the snow many years ago in my 2 wheel rear drive Porsche because I had decent winter tyres. FL2 HSE Auto Galway Green
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18th Jan 2013 8:24 pm |
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Aero_383 Member Since: 05 Sep 2012 Location: Sussex Posts: 586 |
Still waiting for a chance to test my wintrac 4's. Where is the blizzard I was promised this morning, the same blizzard that had the shelves in supermarkets stripped by panic buying idiots, and all local schools closing at lunch time because there might be "a massive dump" (their phrase not mine) according to the Met office.
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18th Jan 2013 10:02 pm |
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GJH0702 Member Since: 04 Sep 2011 Location: Southport Posts: 428 |
No issues with snow in manual XS- just driving on sheet ice was the hard part especially braking or should I say sliding
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18th Jan 2013 10:49 pm |
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WizzardPrang Member Since: 19 Oct 2012 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 93 |
That is the one thing which puts me off taking the car out in the snow! I've lost count of the number of idiots I've seen slide helplessly into other cars, armfuls of lock and driven wheels spinning furiously. It's actually terrifying when they are headed your way. This is my first winter with a Freelander, although I've experienced many previous snow seasons with RAV4s etc., I've never had problems driving in snow when the roads were empty. Unfortunately most of the time I've been stuck in queues of 2WD cars driven (& I use the adjective loosely) by morons. 2020 Defender D200 110S Pangea Green Gone: 2018 L550, TD4 SE Tech Auto, Carpathian Grey Gone: Defender 90 200Tdi, Grey Raptor Gone: 2012 FL2, TD4 GS Manual, Santorini Black |
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18th Jan 2013 11:37 pm |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5001 |
Not me. Wife went to work in her FL2 and I went in the 330D. I got rid of the terrible BMW run-flats ages ago and it has got winter boots on now. The 330D had no problem driving through 4-6" of snow, up hills and turning tight corners. Considering its got 300BHP & 620Nm of torque I think the winter tyres performed amazingly. With the OEM run flats I wouldnt have been able to get off our drive ! So to paraphrase something someone once said "there is no such thing as bad weather, just inappropriate tyres" |
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19th Jan 2013 12:56 am |
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