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Bugblatter



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If you can narrow down the ownership of the vehicle to the most likely candidate, then you have a good chance in the small claims court, provided the repairs are less than £5,000. You don't need the registration number, as long you can establish that "on the balance of probability" that it was the NHS, or whoever, then you will probably get paid.

You would most likely lose if they can provide tracking evidence to prove where their vehicles were at the time and that none of them were where your accident happened. If you lose in the small claims court, you only pay a small amount. 2013 RR Evoque Pure Tech
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iain cooper



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Bugblatter wrote:
as long you can establish that "on the balance of probability" that it was the NHS, or whoever, then you will probably get paid.


that's a new one !! somehow I think you would need just a wee bit of evidence as well Bugblatter.

Iain

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Well, at the moment I'm still waiting for the Blood Service to return my 2nd call to them.

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We had an mini bus from an NHS nursing home knock off and damage a wing mirror on the works van. Luckily our rep was sat in the van at the time. The driver of the NHS vehicle had to pay the 230 quid for the wing mirror as their policy was that the driver had to pay the first 500 quid excess. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Tigger



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That might explain what they drove off without stopping then.

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John,
The Police should help if it's hit and run.
Anyway, I wonder if the vehicle that hit you was on the way to Treliske Hospital?
Did any driver deliver/pick up form there?
Maybe it's worth a bit of detective work

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You'd think the Police would be interested, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, as it turns out, the Police "don't have the resources to follow it up" unless I'm able to provide them with the full registration number. I wonder, do they still do detective work, or was that just a Sherlock Holmes thing? There's something slightly pythonesque about this....

The good news is that I've now got a call from the blood service and they are (so far) as concerned and helpful as you'd hope they would be. I'll let you know how it works out.

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Bugblatter



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iain cooper wrote:
Bugblatter wrote:
as long you can establish that "on the balance of probability" that it was the NHS, or whoever, then you will probably get paid.


that's a new one !! somehow I think you would need just a wee bit of evidence as well Bugblatter.

Iain


That's why I said "as long as you can establish". Remember that the standard of proof required in the civil courts is far less than in criminal courts. In many cases it is one party's word against another's. (I do have relevant experience). 2013 RR Evoque Pure Tech
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On the balance of probabilities to be precise in the civil courts. Just to throw a random bit of basic info in there. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Any updates on the hit and run? Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Tigger



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Still waiting to hear back from the Blood & Transplant Service. Will be chasing in a day or two....

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Hello.
Contact the police again. Your collision is reportable as you have alleged the other party failed to stop. Normally damage only collisions are non-reportable but due to the offence it is reportable. What should happen is the police will report it, send to the traffic section who will establish the authority in charge of the vehicle (ambulance / bloodvan makes this possible even without registration number), they used to serve something like a section 172 to the registered keeper who has to identify the driver. This normally needs to be done within 14 days if possible. Things may be done differently now but locating the other party should be straightforward for the police. You may need to complete a self reporting collision form at your local nick if they use this system.

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Tigger



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Unfortunately, the police are refusing, point blank, to get involved.

They say that, without the registration number, they will refuse to investigate it any further. If you are aware of any specific piece of legislation that I can quote that may force them to do their job, I'd be very grateful if you could supply a link.

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Tigger wrote:
Unfortunately, the police are refusing, point blank, to get involved.

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You never know your luck, your insurance company might get a claim come in from the other driver claiming against you for damaging his van then clearing off, then at least you'll know who it was.

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Sec 170 road traffic act 1988. Basically says a damage only accident where driver fails to stop has to be reported to police. After you inform police by phone they should send you to local station to self report. Different forces have different polices but you seem to have found one that does not use the road traffic act or have any police officers.

http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Colli...0005513174

If this link works it is useful.

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