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Toadshall



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Stornoway Grey
Camshaft Drive Hybrid?

Familiar with the problems associated with torque stab loads on 16 valve diesel engines using belt camshaft drive, but unfamiliar with the exact camshaft drive architecture for the FL2, I was intrigued to note the details in the in drawing on page 2 of Alex Pescaru's post:

Exhaust Camshaft Breakdown. - http://www.freel2.com/forum/post158505.html#158505

The line drawing for the exhaust camshaft clearly shows that both camshafts must initially be chain driven. Does anyone have a drawing or photograph of the camshaft drive layout to the crank for me to study, and perhaps also the belts width, overall thickness and tooth depth.

Engine manufacturers have moved away from belts by and large as 16 valve engines replaced eight valve types. Reliability became an issue as the resulting drive train stab loads increased, and belt drive mechanical complexity increased.

Regards, Toadshall

Post #162314 26th Nov 2012 12:58 pm
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alex_pescaru



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The exhaust camshaft is driven by the cam belt and from there, through chain, the intake camshaft is driven.
Here it's below:

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Toadshall



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Alex,

Thank you.

I can see that this simpler layout reduces the complexity of belt wrap and its associated extra loads.

Kind regards, Toadshall

Post #162331 26th Nov 2012 5:50 pm
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Andy131



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OK so the belt needs changing every 150K miles.
How often does the chain and sprockets need changing? Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

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alex_pescaru



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They are endless, timeless, never-ending... Rolling with laughter

Seriously now, the manual doesn't mentions anything about them...
So we don't have any other option than to use technical common sense.

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LRswe



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wow, that is actually a pretty cool design.

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Toadshall



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Andy131 wrote:
OK so the belt needs changing every 150K miles.
How often does the chain and sprockets need changing?


Hello Andy,

No need to be concerned at all as regards the chain. Use of an initial chain drive will oblige the chain to be in a permanent oil bath, the cam belt separated by a casting cover and shaft drive oil seal. What is important is to change your engine oil frequently and use the best quality stuff. All oil types degrade, but the semi's and mineral types have a fairly short life, changing their viscosity specification, oxidation resistance and ability to minimise sludge and acidification.

The fully synthetic oil products by comparison are literally superb. The product now recommended by LR for the Freelander is Castrol Edge SLX Professional 5W 30. I find the read in the link below a magnificent story of innovation and science. I have never owned a Volvo!

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/engine_oil_history.shtml

As you note - belts are inherently consumable items and need replacing at the LR time interval or sooner. Its one of many reasons why they are no longer popular. The replacement bill for labour is also significant.

Regards, Toadshall

Post #162435 27th Nov 2012 2:48 pm
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