who is going to be the fist one to try the new type front and rear lamps off the 2013 model on there freelander  rainy-city
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Will they work? Bearing is mind the front ones have DLR built in wouldnt the LR's brain need reprogramming?

The LR brain is the new one that is seen in the Evoque, is it not?
They may well not work at all?

The new headlight high beam flasher is an LED unit, the high beam itself will be provided by the Bi-xenon hid unit, this will give bulb errors with the can network, not sure if indicators are also LED, if they are then the flash rate may change as the existing ones are filament lamps with relay drivers, which flash faster on a bulb fail.

Certainly nice looking lights though, I'll wait 12 months then may change up.

cant be that complicated its only an led ring lol When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car

I really liked LED's inisitally, but a see that a few of the individual LED's (particularly on VW's) are starting to fail.

I'm wondering if they are proving to be very expensive to replace, as the early adopters (VW again), are starting to move back to conventional bulbs.

Consequently, although I upgraded to LED tail lamps on a MINI I used to own, I wouldn't do it again.

I have replaced quite a few of the lamps at home with LEDs (approx 20) - so far 5 have failed, so much for thier advertised long life. The LEDs themselves seem fine it's the drivers that step down from mains voltage that have failed every time. I wonder if the same thing is happening with car lamps? Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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With LEDs you get what you pay for. We only fit Philips and have had no call backs.
If you take the suggested lamp life, sometimes expressed as up to 100K hours then that would equate to around 10 years of lamp life. LEDs have not been around that long for any manufactuerer to have bench tested for that sort of period!
Automotive LEDs fitted by manufacturers must be of a high standard branded lamp.

Its like any new technology, give them a couple of years to get rid of the teething problems then they will be as reliable as normal bulbs, one hopes.
I dont think Ive ever had to replace a normal bulb on any car Ive had so far.

sparkyfletch wrote:

LEDs have not been around that long for any manufactuerer to have bench tested for that sort of period!

sparkyfletch wrote:

With LEDs you get what you pay for. We only fit Philips and have had no call backs.
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THE LED may well have been invented in 1927, but the first versions that emmited useable white light and to have been produced commercially have not been available for many years. The chip set that control non automtotive LEDs have only been around for a couple of years. the latest (CREE) chipset has been in production for even less time. Therefore one can only speculate on the life expectancy and the 14 year advertising claim cannot be tested. Given that the some of the more powerfull versions have an integral cooling fan, I think it is extreamly generous to suggest a miniature fan would last for more than 5 years.

I've had Led floodlights in poultry shed for nearly two years now, on at least 20 hours every day
no failures yet. one failed so I got a long stick and taped it and it came back to life and has been on for 3 mths since, proving that old fashioned farming methods often prevail.


electricity savings are approx £8 per day. shame the fittings cost £90 and I have 60 of them.

toshiba led bulb in kitchen impresses, various cheapo g10 lamps around house keep working although the occasional single led of the 16 or 30 in the fitting have failed At work
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C.G.
Can I replace my halogen kitchen unit lamps with LED so they will be cooler?

Yes if they are G10 there are many makes available.

Try http://www.simplyled.co.uk/ - ther are many sites available.

There are two main things to look for, colour temperature, and light output.
Colour temperature tends to come in two options, warm white - which is a yellowy glow not unsimilar to tungsten lamps, or, cool white - which is more blue, similar to daylight fluorescents. Batrooms and kitchens seem better in cool white - more clinical. Bedrooms and dining rooms seem better in warm white - more homely.

Light output, measured in lumens (or Candelas) very roughly you need 350 lumens to mimick a 50Watt halogen and 200 lumens to mimick a 35Watt halogen. Old G10 LEDs struggled to reach 100 lumens

You will pay more for dimmable LEDs, and not all dimmers are compatible.
Low voltage LEDs are available, but again not all transformers are compatible. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Dave wrote:

sparkyfletch wrote:

LED's were invented in 1927, they have certainly been around long enough for any sort of testing required.

Werent they reverse engineered from captured flying saucer technology??