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1STFREELANDER



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Just read on Autocar that the Defender replacement will be built in India, given that the UK appears to be a diminishing market, while Asia and china are booming I wonder how long before more all the manufacturing goes to india.I wonder if it matters anymore, Fords are built in Belgium, Suzukis in Bulgaria, Fiats in Poland, BMWs in the USA and VW's in Mexico, Bentleys are VW and Rolls Royce is BMW. It does seem a shame that something so British will be built in India. Its perverse but it would seem the only way to support UK workers is to buy Japanese,
Honda from swindon or Nissan from Sunderland.
What a strange world we live in.

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taztastic



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Strange indeed, in fact if the Scots get their way, Britain itself may cease to be.

I would have to be English Shocked

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Yorkshire chicken does and always has come from Yorkshire and remains a delicious food choice. buy some today Thumbs Up

Yorkshire bread too, and oilseed rape oil Whistle while your in the shop grab some spuds too delicious Cool

Oh and a packet of biscuits Thumbs Up At work
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On chicken tonight CG, that should help pay for your thirsty RRS Thumbs Up

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eat another Im holding out for a full fat range rover Whistle At work
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Funny...the Royal Enfield is still regarded as "British" but has been built in India since the 60s. However, I agree, we just can't seem to hold on to our own companies and Dave boy seems keen to attract more "foreign investment" i.e. sell off what's left of the family silver to Johnny Foreigner. John
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taztastic



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CG, you better start breeding six legged quad breasted birdies if your after a FFRR, and if you start doing cheesy TV ads you'll get a slap Laughing

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taztastic wrote:
Strange indeed, in fact if the Scots get their way, Britain itself may cease to be.

I would have to be English Shocked



hi

well being Scottish i just don't know if it would be a change for the better or are we getting led up the garden path 1995 P38 now dead
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MANUFAN



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I was working in Hungary during the chicken scare and all of theirs had six legs Thumbs Up

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taztastic wrote:
Strange indeed, in fact if the Scots get their way, Britain itself may cease to be.
I would have to be English Shocked


The game plan of Tata in their due diligence of LRJ was that for the Defender model to be evidently commercially successful and, to regain its previous traditional colonial markets of Africa (and others) from the Japanese, the Defender would have to be built in India where low production and material costs would be the foundation of the model's commercial competitive viability.

In addition, also in the game plan is the potential to produce two "technologies" Defender - a base lower cost fabrication in steel for developing country markets, and, a higher tech alu fabrication for the existing LR Defender developed markets. The higher tech model may even be re-branded to a new model name e.g. "Defiant" - or vis à vis.

This I have mentioned in my previous posts on this subject - those of you who are good web site researchers may well find this circa 2010 postings. And no, before you ask I cannot reveal my sources.

And I would not be surprised if should that exercise proved to be successful then other entry model Land Rover's (FL3?) and Jaguar models may all be built in India. The UK remaining as the production location for the higher end LRJ models. This gives Tata the production capacity to raise volumes in production without the need to build new and expensive production plants in the UK.

And, forget not that in Q2 2011 LRJ announced that it has signed a letter of understanding with a Chinese partner to establish kit assembly production in China. Don't choke on ya beer lads - it's called survival. Cool


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big-al-cove wrote:
taztastic wrote:
Strange indeed, in fact if the Scots get their way, Britain itself may cease to be.

I would have to be English Shocked



hi

well being Scottish i just don't know if it would be a change for the better or are we getting led up the garden path


I think we all are, it would be better for London to gain independence and leave the rest of us alone Whistle

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MANUFAN



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Hi Richard,
That’s easy for you to say sat in your safe house in Switzerland Thumbs Up

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athelstan



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MANUFAN wrote:
Hi Richard,
That’s easy for you to say sat in your safe house in Switzerland Thumbs Up


It is only "easy" to say knowing what I know from a source that I've known for many years - although he did get it wrong the other year on the production of the "old" Jag X type production schedule in India. So with a track record of 99% over 20+ yrs I still believe in his credentials.

Re "safe houses" - with all the avalanches being set off around me right now, and the local power station exploding at 04:35hrs this Wednesday morning (total black out) I'd hardly call this place safe at the moment Shocked

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