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stooby



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Continental Cross Contacts...wear

Hi All,

My MY10 XS came with Continental Cross Contacts M&S and since then I've done 13500 miles. I noticed today that they seem to have already worn down to just above the wear bars. The wear is even across the tread.
Considering some of the mileages people seem to get from tyres on the FL2 this seems to me that my tyres are
wearing more quickly than I shouold suspect.
Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing it? Am I wrong about what seems to be excessive wear?
Would alignment cause even wear?

Regards,

Stuart

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druand



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Tyre wear depends a lot on what type of roads you use most. Re. Continentals, I have found Goodyear on my GS wheels performed better than the Continental Contacts on SE
My first GS Auto on Goodyear had 3mm even at 24000 mls.
Current SD has 5.5mm on fronts and 6mm on rears at 13000mls, Goodyear. I live in a country area so lots of twisty roads but do have long runs on dual carrigeway, possibly 50/50.

If alignment was the problem tyres would wear unevenly, either on outside edge if toe IN too far or inner edge if toe OUT to far. Excessive wear on inner and outer edges is UNDER inflation and centre of tyre is OVER inflation. All FL2's (3) Gone
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stooby



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Hmmm

Hi Druand,

I did wonder, my commute is 15 minutes each way on twisty roads so I expect the wear will be higher than if I was on a motorway each day.

Stuart

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I had Good Year Wranglers on my last Freely and I am confident I would have nudged the 40k mark with them if I still had it, I have the Continental Cross Contacts on this one and I will be Shocked If I get to 25k with them.

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Continental Cross Contact on my 1st Freelander 2 changed at 24000 miles for Wranglers which were still looking like new when i sold it at 36000. Continental 4x4 Contact on my 2nd Freelander 2 done 10500 miles and still looking good but I don't expect them to last much beyond 24000.
Was told that recent EU tyre legislation will reduce the mileage we can expect from each set of tyres in the future!

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So what the EU have done, means that a difficult item to recycle ie tyre carcasses, (there is only so many barriers and meanages that we can use them for) their will now be lots more of them Confused

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athelstan



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rchrdleigh wrote:

Was told that recent EU tyre legislation will reduce the mileage we can expect from each set of tyres in the future!


The new EU tyre regulations WILL NOT REDUCE the mileage you'll get from any tyre manufacturer - only your style of driving and incorrect tyre maintenance will.

The new EUU regulations effective from November 1st 2012 is a directive to enable the consumer to make a more informed choice on which tyre is best suited for your vehicle, for where you live (climate) and, your normal regular journey type. It will classify on the basis of A to G (A = best) the existing standard safety performance ratings of the tyre plus two new benchmarks for "Rolling Resistance" (energy efficiency) and "Noise Level" (comfort.) With this new overall EU classification in mind tyre manufacturers are developing tyres to optimise their individual models' ratings against that of their competitors.

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rchrdleigh



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That'll teach me to listen to people who claim to know what they're talking about without checking the facts from another source first!.
The cynic in me will always suspect a plot by manufacturers to reduce the longevity of tyres to increase their sales!

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I got about 20k miles out of my conti's and live in Cumbria so we don't have the best roads! I then changed to the new general grabber AT.

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Just changed my continentals had 2.5mm left, even wear and done 35000 miles.

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ad210358 wrote:
So what the EU have done, means that a difficult item to recycle ie tyre carcasses, (there is only so many barriers and meanages that we can use them for) their will now be lots more of them Confused


Not at all.
Firstly the new EU legislation is purely a "product labelling" exercise, much in the same manner as food packaging legislation is constantly being revised to meet consumer demands for greater clarity and a better understanding of what is not only contained within the product but its real country of origin e.g: "Walls British Bangers" that used to contain absolutely no British farmed meat!

Secondly tyre manufacturers have developed more durable tyres that give the user more miles per £, and have at the same time, initiated research into tyre recycling techniques and second generation products. Yes used tyres are not the easiest products in the world to put to further use but it is being done. Used tyres (their constituent components) are for example reworked to provide school playground "safer" soft impact surfaces, and fuel pellets for very high temperature industrial space heaters. That's just two of the many products derived from unroadworthy tyres.

rchrdleigh wrote:

The cynic in me will always suspect a plot by manufacturers to reduce the longevity of tyres to increase their sales!


A more durable product increases sales more than a product that "fails" early and by doing so increases consumer hostility to the brand. That's why Michelin for example have been spending a lot of money on TV ad campaigns across Europe to promote their new range of "higher" mileage tyres.

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And don't forget the shoes the Africans made out of tyres, what I saw whilst in Kenya, measure the foot, cut the tyre, a length of rope and you have you Pirelli footwear Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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npinks wrote:
And don't forget the shoes the Africans made out of tyres, what I saw whilst in Kenya, measure the foot, cut the tyre, a length of rope and you have you Pirelli footwear Thumbs Up


I'm surprised cobblers in the UK haven't caught onto this idea....

Just think shoes with great path handling in the rain.

Could even have 'Snow Shoes' or even 'M&S shoes' - (Mud and Snow - not Marks & Spencer!)

And the wear rate would be perhaps a lifetime (for most walkers!) 2002 Honda VFR800
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And the wear rate would be perhaps a lifetime (for most walkers!)[/quote]

There is your answer, things are designed to break so you have to go and buy more.

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stooby



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Thanks for all of the replies folks

Me thinks my regular commute has contributed to the wear. At least I know what to do with the tyres when they come off....

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