Freelander wouldn’t start yesterday morning, -4c but that shouldn’t make a difference, just cranking and throwing the switch out . Tried several no numerous times going through glow plug cycle . I ended up putting a jump starter pack thinking battery (not long had car ), but no. I then put the Ctex charger and left it till night , battery well up to charge tried again, no joy. Left it till 12pm and after 5/6 attempts with small firing ups but never quite getting there, finally caught ignition . Definitely not battery and nothing in diagnostics . Plug relay checked on diagnostic and comes on but may have to physically check them as I can’t think of anything else at this stage. Supposed to have been serviced as far as the sales garage told me.
Any clues welcome , this was real bad timing ....not chuffed , but moving on.😏


I took this image of two engine faults but according to dates they were last year.

Start with the basics:

Have you got a extra earth lead.

If fuel filter not recently done change.

Do a hard re-set.

If still a problem after those go to pub until spring.

May well be glow plugs but that is not a 2 minute solution.

You mention garage and sale ? If recent sale its their problem not yours. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Hi, had the same problem with mine the last two days. Never fails normally down to -2°C. but -5°C just too much for it.

Taken three 10s attempts today to start. Some new glow plugs required I think. Not too surprised at 11 years old.

I will be removing swirl flaps (if there's any left) in a few weeks so ideal time.

Cheers, JGH99. Freelander 2 GS Stornoway Grey
Jan 2007 Bought 71,000 miles. Currently 149,300 miles.

Thanks for replies guys , looks like a look into testing plugs, pretty sure that is the problem .

Did you try cancelling the two codes to see if they come back up? Without checking the details on the codes, I would wonder about the throttle body. If it is jammed shut you won’t get air in to allow it to fire up. 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

Electric throttle stuck in a position where doesn't allow the air to enter the engine?.... So you can't start it.

JGH99, indeed, new glow plugs required. The engine can start down to -5 deg. without glows, but no less than that.

Worms wrote:

Did you try cancelling the two codes to see if they come back up? Without checking the details on the codes, I would wonder about the throttle body. If it is jammed shut you won’t get air in to allow it to fire up.

Petrol will freeze at about -60°C, diesel is about -5°C to -15°C depending if it is winter diesel blend. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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alfapat wrote:

Worms wrote:

Did you try cancelling the two codes to see if they come back up? Without checking the details on the codes, I would wonder about the throttle body. If it is jammed shut you won’t get air in to allow it to fire up.

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I’m pretty sure those codes have been there for a while if you go by dates, I would have been happier if they were more recent, ...something to go on .
Been running car most of the afternoon and it’s fine, but tomorrow will tell all. Anyone know if a manual test I can do , like resistance values, perhaps Someone with Auto-data.
Cheers Pat

Aye no problem , your right, I temporarily left them and shouldn’t have , but recorded now.
Car started this morning , but only minus 1c .
I ll clear tonight.

I had to go out yesterday car had been stood 2 days pointing into the wind it was covered with a good 4 inch of snow front grill just solid ice,turned on ignition to give it 30 seconds as I'd read to do on here,temp said -5,tried to start,it just whirred and coughed took 4 attempts but it finally started,as said above I've seen -2 on it before but not -5.

Bedtime reading
http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic7447.html FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

I've had the same problem at -5C. Two days running.

Engine turns over, and almost catches. But not quite.

Day 1 - at -5C ran battery down trying, so use jump cables from and was able to try a few more times before it burst into life
Day 2 - at -5C nearly ran battery down, it eventually started when the battery was nearing the end

It has been serviced recently, although dont think fuel filter was on the list.

However, does this sound also like glow plugs? Car is 9 years old with 180,000 miles on the clock '09 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto
19" shadow chrome wheels
Lago Grey

Previously, '00 Freelander TD4 GS Manual

At -5 you need to know for sure the fuel filter is A OK and no water sediment is in it, if not changed in last 2 years it needs doing, especially if doing high miles. A standard A service does not do much more than change the engine oil and oil filter.

If your battery is older than 5 years I would change that out if not always on a trickle charger.

Every chance your heater plugs are goosed at that mileage.

Comes down to time, money and inconvenience in the end but if you get past this cold spell you really need to think forward to next Winter. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Yorky Bob wrote:

Bedtime reading
http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic7447.html

wow Chicken George has been here a long time