From Today's Financial Times

Higher taxes will be placed on new diesel vehicles in the UK in this month’s Budget, as the government tries to nudge drivers towards less polluting alternatives.

Ministers have been weighing whether to raise taxes to fund new air-quality initiatives or to find the cash through cuts elsewhere in the Budget since Michael Gove, the environment secretary, unveiled the government’s “Clean Air Strategy” in July.

Government aides said Philip Hammond, the chancellor, has decided that tax increases on diesel cars is the best option and will announce the move in the Budget on November 22. It is not yet clear whether he will increase VAT on diesel sales or choose to create a new levy.

I wonder what LandRover's strategy is going to be? I don't see many petrol SUVs around. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

They flog off petrol versions down under. Actually parked right next to one today! I still prefer the Freelander over the DS. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

JLR will be fine. They will simply produce more cleaner petrol units along with more hybrid options. You can now even get a petrol Discovery Sport last year it was diesel only. Every LR model on sale in the U.K. has petrol options available. My only concern is that the prices will rocket up further as diesel LR’s are cheaper... MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

Diesel v Petrol variants:

Is it/was it not a case in the recent past that a Diesel engine variant was more expensive than the equivalent Petrol model....... because mpg was more economical.

And now no doubt that'll be reversed when a Diesel variant will be cheaper than a Petrol model ...... because it's more polluting.
(Except for Land Rover, where a Petrol variant will be more expensive. )  FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

There always seems to be 'new evidence' when they want to hit us mere motorists.  If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

I come from a generation when fuel was 35p per GALLON !

So fuel is now 120p per Litre

Whatever the price of fuel ......... we will still buy it.

....... and some complain about it .....

Yes I remember the days when you would roll up to the pumps and an attendant would come out and you would say "put a pound's worth in please" and feel like a big spender. You could also buy a round of drinks and have change from a pound. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Largered wrote:

I come from a generation when fuel was 35p per GALLON !

So fuel is now 120p per Litre

Whatever the price of fuel ......... we will still buy it.

....... and some complain about it .....

Still cheaper than beer.  MY13 Santorini Black SD4 HSE

.....and whiskey is cheaper that Fully Synthetic Oil ......

ronp wrote:

Is it/was it not a case in the recent past that a Diesel engine variant was more expensive than the equivalent Petrol model....... because mpg was more economical.

LR diesels are cheaper than their petrol variants

Evoque is approximately £12,000 cheaper
D5 approx £10,000 cheaper

Not point comparing all the models it’s a similar pattern  MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

Also remember that it is really only since the 200 Tdi engines appeared with the launch of the Discovery in 1989, that Diesel engines have overtaken Petrol engines as the preferred version for Land Rover models that spent the majority of their time on-road. 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

Largered wrote:

I come from a generation when fuel was 35p per GALLON !

In my early motoring days I remember pulling up to the (serviced) pumps in my ‘56 Austin A50 ( we really knew how to rock then) & said “Four gallons please, nah, round it up to a quid’s worth”.

Bob 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

LR NUT wrote:

LR diesels are cheaper than their petrol variants

Ed, I did say that LR petrol engines are more expensive than diesels.  FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

Worms wrote:

Also remember that it is really only since the 200 Tdi engines appeared with the launch of the Discovery in 1989, that Diesel engines have overtaken Petrol engines as the preferred version for Land Rover models that spent the majority of their time on-road.

The chancellor will want to increase his overall tax take from diesel vehicles, so the price will go up, but not by enough to actually stop people from buying them (which would be counter productive for him).

We’ve seen eye watering increases in first year VED rates for higher CO2 vehicles, especially those over £40,000, but idiots like me still continue to buy them! Sure, a proportion will drift away (probably the low mileage drivers who were buying pointless diesel superminis) but not enough to reduce the overall tax take, so this will not be the death of Diesel.

Interestingly, what we are seeing on the FFRR site is that some people, who might have bought a relatively low CO2 output / sensible mpg diesel variant, now justifying ordering an insane 5.0 V8 supercharged petrol version!