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andy3681

Member Since: 03 Jan 2015
Location: Newcastle under Lyme/Le Dorat Haute Vienne
Posts: 71

Reading your list of requirements for Freelander reborn.
sounds like you want a Range Rover

19th Feb 2016 8:13 am

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

I always thought the FL2 looked a little like a baby RRS when they first came out,

I like the mock up pictures earlier in this thread, but basically a smaller, cheaper RRS would be nice ........................... oh hang on im getting confused with the DS now.

How about something stylish, practical, reliable and reasonably priced that doesn't just follow the trendy Chelsea tractor design that people fall for now..............

19th Feb 2016 8:54 am

Steve D

Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 4109

Stuartc wrote:
Styled for purpose, functionality rather than fashionista.
Definately not a 7 seater.
Command view driving position.

Sounds like you're wanting a Defender.

Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

19th Feb 2016 9:11 am

Stuartc

Member Since: 01 Dec 2014
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 2292

2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

andy3681 wrote:
Reading your list of requirements for Freelander reborn.
sounds like you want a Range Rover

I'd agree with that, smaller version of the current RRS would be ideal but hang on that's what I have☺️ MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

19th Feb 2016 9:15 am

Stuartc

Member Since: 01 Dec 2014
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 2292

Steve D wrote:
Stuartc wrote:
Styled for purpose, functionality rather than fashionista.
Definately not a 7 seater.
Command view driving position.

Sounds like you're wanting a Defender.

Possibly, have to wait and see on that one!
For the time being there is no more LR's badged "Freelander"'and that's quite desirable for me having
one of the last.
Frankly, this car still brings a big smile to my face every time I get in it. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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19th Feb 2016 9:17 am

pab

Member Since: 28 Aug 2012
Location: Now in Mid-Wales
Posts: 2007

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

Stuartc wrote:
Styled for purpose, functionality rather than fashionista.
Definately not a 7 seater.
Command view driving position.

Yep, all of the above. Plus a proper 4x4 drivetrain, with low box and a diff in place of the haldex (torsen or limited slip or even just lockable). Plus better underbody protection and another inch or so of ground clearance (not air suspension though - that's more cost and more to go wrong.

Basically, turn it into a proper Land Rover, not the fashion accessory LRs have become.

Oh, and the last thing it should be is 'desirable', other than to people who actually want a 4x4.

19th Feb 2016 9:17 am

dunkley201

Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 2739

2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Ingeneum engine, 9 speed auto, beefed up rear diff, i6 tail pipes, updated dash/kit, ewok front seat squabs (longer). Bring back Rimini Red. 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

19th Feb 2016 9:22 am

Steve D

Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 4109

Stuartc wrote:

Frankly, this car still brings a big smile to my face every time I get in it.

Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. There's been a fair few on here that have only had that big smile when they got rid of theirs but I suppose that could apply to almost any Land/Range Rover model with the possible exception of the Defender. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

19th Feb 2016 11:14 am

Landiroamer

Member Since: 30 Apr 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 1185

2015 Freelander 2 TD4_e SE Manual Orkney Grey

Xenon headlights as standard always would be nice so you can go out when its dark and see where youre going..

19th Feb 2016 11:28 am

pab

Member Since: 28 Aug 2012
Location: Now in Mid-Wales
Posts: 2007

Stuartc wrote:
Frankly, this car still brings a big smile to my face every time I get in it.

Me too. And in four years of ownership all I've had to do is replace the rear discs and the wheel arch rubbers. It needs a new tailgate switch now, but that's not going to break the bank. I'm glad I didn't bother with an extended warranty!

19th Feb 2016 12:11 pm

j77

Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 2909

Landiroamer wrote:
Xenon headlights as standard always would be nice so you can go out when its dark and see where youre going..

My D4 was £42k and I still had to spend £710 on xenons.

The next car for me won't be a Land Rover. It will be the new Volvo V90 D5 AWD. Going up to Volvo dealers to see about a test drive. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

19th Feb 2016 1:04 pm

andy3681

Member Since: 03 Jan 2015
Location: Newcastle under Lyme/Le Dorat Haute Vienne
Posts: 71

+1 For the VOLVO just need to figure out how to pay for it.

19th Feb 2016 1:25 pm

Dartman the one

Member Since: 04 Apr 2013
Location: Seville, Spain
Posts: 1689

My LR dealer and Volvo are in the same building, just a gangway separating them, quite amusing stepping from one side to the other comparing and watching the sales staff wondering whether to jump in or are you kicking tyres. Certainly allows you to assess all in peace my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

19th Feb 2016 1:32 pm

pab

Member Since: 28 Aug 2012
Location: Now in Mid-Wales
Posts: 2007

dunkley201 wrote:
Ingeneum engine, 9 speed auto

I'm not so sure about either of those!

Ingenium doesn't seem to be living up to its promise, in terms of either fuel efficiency or refinement, and still seems to be lagging behind the best. Does it really make sense for a company the size of JLR to design and build its own engines? Or would it have been better continuing to buy in from Ford or another major manufacturer? So a new Freelander should have a new engine, yes, but I'm not sure it should be an Ingenium!

As for the 9-speed box, it's having some pretty significant reliability issues, and even when it's working not everyone likes it. Some love it, but many testers have found it just too busy, constantly changing gear, hunting between gears, etc. The 9 gears are there to make the fuel consumption test figures look good, not for driveability. For driveability it's too many.

As for Volvo, the XC90 might perhaps tempt me, but it's just plain UGLY from the front, and they seem to have adopted LR's approach to pricing!

19th Feb 2016 1:33 pm

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

I had a 2015 plate Jaguar XF 2.2D 8 speed auto as a courtesy car a couple of weeks ago

it was quick, the gearbox was smooth but it wasn't as fuel efficient as I would have hoped and I felt the 8 gears were just too many as it kept searching as the revs were too low in the highest gears.

the sat nav was basically the same as my 2010 FL2 as well so not massively improved IMO.

I didn't find the 8 speed auto much better (if at all) than the 6 speed ive got now

19th Feb 2016 2:50 pm

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