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And with the response on my rant how the NHS have treated my wife a long term employee

I think I'll call that a day and pull the control out and switch the TV on Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

This thread has been mildly edited, please try and stick to the original topic and refrain from personal attacks, disagree by all means as each member will have their own view, which we must respect, whether we like it or not.

My daughter is a nurse in an elderly care ward in a large Trust Hospital. (No names no pack drill) Early last year she was made a Ward Sister and upped to a Band 6 (from Band 5). In doing so her pay effectively dropped as she was no longer working shifts. When it came to pay review time the "across the board" one percent rise was applied to her Band 5 colleagues but not to her as she had already "moved up a grade" even though her pay had dropped! Just now she is taking on a 15hr part time post as Clinical Nurse Specialist to assist the consultant, yet remaining a Ward Sister part time too. The Clinical Nurse Specialist post is a Band 7 grade yet, you've guessed it, she remains on Band 6! You couldn't make it up! To ice the cake, as part of her work, she will be training medical trainees (aka Baby Doctors) who are already earning more than her! 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

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Sounds like the NHS through and through  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

This is happening all too often across many of the pay grades just to satisfy targets set by external consultants whom themselves would not get out of bed if they were treated in the same demoralising fashion or paid the same hourly rates.

And it ranks as the 8th wonder of the world that these abused employees still deliver the world's finest nationally available social health care system.

America, the corporate home of many of these so called expert consultants to the NHS cannot in itself despite being the most expensive private health care sŷstem in the world deliver any level of health care to 41 million of its own citizens. (data sourced from W.H.O.) The land of the free maybe - but the land of the healthy is debatable.

And here in Switzerland we have the world's third most expensive health care system, and that system too, despite the nation's very favourable GDP, is driving an ever larger proportion of its native population to seek social assistance in paying their health care insurance bills. And yes, often when her Ladyship recommends a particularly expensive (but essential) medication regime to a patient the last word is always held by that patient's health insurer who will often refuse to fund that treatment. The amount of time my dear lady spends pleading on behalf of her patients to insurance company "client service advisors" is a disgrace.

The NHS has never bankrupted a patient, or excluded a patient from the operating theatre in a medical emergency.

Not read this post for a while except for the o/p.
While I'm all for open and free speech, I'm lost for words how any of this helps the o/p.
All burn the soapbox please and calm down a bit.

There, now shoot at me. At least it'll deflect some of the heat.
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Nothings going to help the OP, it's the same throughout the government departments, my OH hasn't had a pay rise for 4 years, though there has been a change in bonuses which are now quite good but only apply to the top 10%, the advantage is that though the money is nice, the pension is static and there have been no graduated seniority payments. That means a person on the top grade can earn £5K more than the OH perform badly and get no bonus and still come out on top with a better pension. That is the penalty of an overspending government on government employees, I don't like it, she doesn't like it, and the pratts that caused it reckon they should get another go as they have learned their lessons, yet can't or won't tell us what they will do my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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i agree, nothing will help, not unless someone can prove because they changed policy without telling people they can't deduct her secure wage.

At least they will fast track her appointment with the occupational fatigue specialist with her working for them, not that she said there was a waiting list anyway

Guess we will just have to reap the discounts her NHS staff card gives her at Nandos instead  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis