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Lebtiw



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Also I went to do a bit of green laning but on my way I had to go up a Tarmac hill the hill was quite steel but my fl2 wouldn't go up there it just cut out ( lost power ) half way up no matter how many revs I give it wouldn't get up can anyone suggest what this could have been as there is so many electronics on the new fl2 I don't know if these could be a problem
Thanks

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Lebtiw



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Apache wrote:
Can only speak for the manual FL2 but no bother in snow:



I'm just parked there - she drove out nicely. About a foot deep - at points I was ploughing with the bumper!

Very Happy



Hey what tyres was on this jeep as I cannot seem to drive mine in the snow it won't budge at all & I've tried all the different modes such as snow sand mud & ruts etc

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Post #164201 12th Dec 2012 9:45 pm
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Doesn't sound right, are you running in reduced power mode due to a engine issue?

Might be worth seeing if any fault codes are there,

Post #164202 12th Dec 2012 9:46 pm
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Aero_383



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I think wheel spining is an interesting point here.
I have only owned my car 5 months and this will be my first winter. In a normal car you do everything you can to avoid spinning the wheels. If you find your FL's wheels spinning when trying to move off you need to increase revs to get the black magic working and send drive to the wheels where the power is needed. This increase is against your natural instincts so I reckon some people will reduce the gas before the car can do its stuff.

Of course I might be talking out my a Censored e. _________________
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Post #164204 12th Dec 2012 9:51 pm
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Lebtiw



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I don't think there is a problem with te engine as there is no lights showing.
Do you know what tyres I could get which is good for snow ?

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The only really good tyres for snow are Winter tyres also often referred to as snow tyres.

In your case it may be that your tyres are getting close to the legal minimum tread depth which will affect their grip considerably. Realistically you probably don't want to go much below 4mm tread depth on standard tyres in the winter if you want to keep mobile.

LR Experience Freelanders run 19 inch tyres, currently Continental UHP Contacts which are M&S rated but predominantly a summer tyre. But they do have the benefit of having done less than 2000 miles and they will go up and down most of the hills on the off road course with care.

To get electronic traction control to engage you only need a small increase in revs as the system is designed to react to wheelspin. However get all four wheels spinning and even electronic traction control will struggle to help get you moving.

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Winter tyres are indeed best but I never had anything even close to the problems you are having when I had Goodyear Wrangler M+S tyres on as standard and that was in the bad winter of 2010. GGS mode sets the power at 60:40 front to back so I have learned on here.

Could it be that the tyres you have are not even M+S? If they are just big sports/summer tyres then 44 wheel drive would not help. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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TurboDan



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I suppose the OP's manager has never traveled to the U.S. The LR2 (going domestic Wink ) does unimaginably well in the snow, and I've never seen a manual box in this country. Rolling with laughter CAR HISTORY
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nicedayforit



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Interesting.

http://www.lro.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85428

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pab



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And according to his car list that's a 2002 Freelander 1! The FL2 should do better again.

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VIKING



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Freelander 2 is the best car to drive in snow. I have auto and I drive where others give up. Tests here in Norway shows that only Mercedes GLK and Freelander 2 managed to drive through a heep of snow. BMW X3 and the others had to give up.

So if you want to buy a car that can handle some serious snow, Freelander 2 is the car. WITH AUTO. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack.

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VIKING



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Re: Information on fl2 in snow

Lebtiw wrote:
Hi I have a freelander 2 xs td4 2011 & it snowed a couple of days ago by me. I went to go out in the jeep but got stuck on the flat & was spinning. It was only light snow. It felt like the jeep was trying to control my driving & not me I tried knocking the traction off & switching to mud ruts, snow, sand etc but nothing worked I was stuck. I have normal road tyres but I have heard many people saying that theirs is great in the snow with road tyres so what am I doing wrong?
Does anyone have any advice what I can do e.g tyres.....
Thanks

Also my fl2 is manual 6 speed


Get winter tyres. Summer tyres are useless in the snow. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack.

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lespes



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I have had the following auto box Landrovers

300tdi
2 x td5
RRS
D4
FL2

except for the FL2 which is still pretty new to me, all the above have been out in snow and many muddy situations with a variety of AT and normal road tyres, with recoveries given a plenty but not once having to be recovered.

The RRS onwards i have found the power such much easier to use and feel as to when and where it should be used.

It was interesting to take my brother along to an experience day at Rockingham couple years back, conditions wet and muddy, quite slippy, with standard tyres on a FFRR, as many question the fact that all the gizmos do the work and no driver input is now required. My brother had never driven a 4x4, I had lots of experience and this was evident in the hill climbs and other manoeuvrings that we carried out.

Going back even a few more years had a Granada 2.8 Ghia auto shod with firestone tyres that coped very well in deep virgin snow and packed icy snow. As a precaution i put two bags of 25 kg rock salt in the boot right over the shock absorber turrets and a shovel figuring if the additional traction theory did not work the rock salt would come in handy to dig it out. Never once needed it and it went everywhere I wanted.

This was back in the eighties and remember then it was a common believe autos were unusable in snow, sometimes it takes a while for changes to work through historical rhetoric.

In more modern times the widespread use of fuel efficient tyres with low rolling resistance has created bigger problems to the motorist when snow does fall, which applies to both autos and manuals.

I'm sure countries that have the strict rules about winter tyres and there use would also curb auto use if they were considered to be more of a hazard in snow and ice conditions

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my 3 series bmw had two recess's either side of boot, exactly the size of the 4 stone weights all farmers used to use when weighing potatoes, better by design? 8 stone extra in the boot and it went fairly well in the snow At work
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